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Don't think they're including shuttlecraft. It's a bit hard to read but I can't see the Cerritos' Death Valley scanning through that area of the alphabet. I do note that Discovery is there in both original and -A format, which might be contentious since the ship is its own refit.
Shuttlecraft are Starfleet ships! I will die on this hill!
I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right?
Exactly!
They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships.
If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed.
They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships.
I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship?
No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat.
So a shuttlecraft is a boat
You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want
Planing vs displacement.
An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it.
A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90.
I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75.
An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game.
They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship.
If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep?
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en
Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower.
There is no honour to die on that ~~hill~~ small pile of dirt.
WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS!
Ships launch other craft.
Otherwise it's a boat.
The Discovery shouldn't be in Tendi's lost at all, considering its very existence was redacted.