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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It does literally refer to penis size. Hiding it behind the word "energy" is just obfuscation. It reminds me of racist people defending the N word by saying, "there's black people, then there's Ns. Black people are fine, Ns aren't."

You're just kicking the can down the road. It's the exact same idea, phrased differently. You just wanna say "small dick" and get away with it, that's all.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

MFer did you just compare "small dick energy" to the n word πŸ’€

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Did you just describe what I did in a reductive way, without even attempting to explain your point? Why should I listen to you?

Try attacking the idea itself: "You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently."

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"That's reductive", said the N-word comparer πŸ’€πŸ’€

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Attack the argument or accept that you're wrong.

"Small dick energy" is just a way to say "small dick" without getting called out for it.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Begging people to debate you about how saying small dick energy is like dropping hard Rs is the most small dick energy thing I can think of, no thanks

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

See, you still show no evidence you have any clue what I'm saying, so how can I take you seriously? I never said it is "like droping hard Rs". Seriously, get up to speed or get lost.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Here's an actual, completely serious input for you: If you want people to take you seriously and actually engage, don't start by comparing them to outspoken racists. People will prefer to roast you

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not. I didn't realise people would be so confused by analogies.

I compared the rhetoric. That's the point of such devices. You don't have to be a racist to use similar logic to them.

This isn't complicated whatsoever.

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How deep are you willing to go before you admit you made a dumbass comparison?

Look, I can pretend I'm smart by invoking latin shit too: adversus solem ne loquitor

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Explain how the comparison is "dumbass", or admit you're just wrong.

Anyone can just make claims without justifying them. I claim trees speak German. I will elaborate no further!

pretend I’m smart by invoking latin shit too:

Um, you think that's all I was doing there? Just saying random Latin?

You do realise this is just... you admitting you don't know what reductio ad absurdum is?

And you're acting like that proves anything other than that you're ill-equipped to discuss rhetoric?

I'll explain: reductio ad absurdum is a common rhetorical device whereby you take someone's logic, and apply it to the most extreme example, to show how the logic fails. It literally means "reduction to the absurd".

Here's an example:

What you just did now? Saying "I can invoke random Latin shit"? That's like you, in court, objecting to a lawyer using the term "mens rea", and saying they're just "invoking latin shit", because you don't realise it is in fact a common term in that context, and instead think they're just showing off.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Psst, let me share a little secret. What I said wasn't random it's another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical, but I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning. I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Have you stopped even trying to make a point?

What I said wasn’t random it’s another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical

What? "I can invoke latin shit too?" You were trying to wield that against me in a "look, this is how you look" kinda move? When I never did that or anything like that? Well, cool. I hope you had fun, but it was a waste of time.

I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning

I'm not "flaunting" I'm explaining, because it appeared to be a roadblock for you. You didn't respond to it, but simply point at it and the fact it was Latin. You gave every indication of being stumped. Should I instead have just mocked you and allowed the conversation to come to a standstill? I was trying to explain my point to you.

This isn't a fucking fight. It's a conversation. I'm trying to be even-handed and fair, here.

I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I’ve ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

I'm not sure you're using "poignant" correctly, there. But nothing about this comment I'm responding to makes any sense whatsoever in context, so that's just par for the course, it seems.

Also, why would I call that an ad hominem? Your guesses and estimations about me thus far have been completely off the mark, so what makes you think this one will hit?


All that said, are you ready to get back on topic?

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not reading all that but I'm happy for you

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Ooh, name calling! Based on a willful misinterpretation of what they said, too. A sure sign of a solid argument!

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Try raising your speech level above 0 before responding.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bruh you just compared using the term BDE to the N word.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I compared one instance of belittling offence to another instance of it. Keep up.

I even added explicit reasoning afterwards in case you got distracted, but you still couldn't control yourself.

Maybe try responding to my point itself, instead of the analogy that came with it?

You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lmao you have such debate lord energy, the meme i shared literally says your pp size doesn't matter. The fact that you equated BDE with using the N word shows how out of touch with reality you are.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you say dick size doesn't actually matter, but you're still talking about dick size. The word "energy" is just an excuse, so you can say "small dick" without being called out.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never said small dick till YOU did lmfao

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Sure buddy. "Big dick energy" exists in a vacuum and isn't the counterpart to "small dick energy".

How gullible do you think I am?