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If you're spending a lot of time on applications, you're doing something wrong.
You find out if it's a good company during the interview. Trying to figure it out before hand is like running a background check on someone before swiping on tinder.
Your resume should be ready, your cover letter ready with just a few sentences to swap per job app, and the entire thing should take like 2-5 minutes, max.
I have to disagree. Job postings straight up lie. My husband got to his second interview at a place before they revealed everything from the posting and first interview was a lie and it was a door to door sales job.
Or they'll lie about the responsibility or the pay of the job and he won't learn that until deep into the interview process, which is costly in time, and stress, not to mention dressing up.
I just recently got to the third interview for a software engineering job. 5 minutes in, they asked about my requirements for compensation and I gave a conservative range for a senior engineer role. They said "thanks for your time" and ended the interview. I spent 4 hours total on this to be told my comp request was too high. So fucking sick of this bullshit
Leave them a review on Glassdoor. Call out their recruiting team.
Their recruiter sucks, because that should be one of the first discussions you have after initial qualifications.
I am genuinely curious how often this is policy vs just recruiters being bad at their jobs. Maybe they're incentivized to generate leads/candidates instead of actual hires? That kind of makes sense if senior leadership is dumb enough.
The thing is that we discussed it in the initial call. They seemed fine with it. I'm guessing they got some sucker to take a lower rate
What a bizarre interview process man. Sorry you even had to be part of that. That's so dumb.
Pay should be discussed before the first interviews starts.
The third interview may not have been the final one, believe it or not.
Then these people acted in bad faith. When hiring someone, even if you have decided that this person isn't going to be the one, based just on salary or whater thing, you should still go through the process like normal and send off a rejection letter after. Cutting things short like that was just rude and unprofessional. You dodged a huge bullet here, honestly, because you'd never want to work for people who would treat you like that.
Going through the process despite knowing you’re going to reject an applicant is textbook “bad faith”.
You don't qualify a lead before talking to the person. That's rule 1 of sales efficiency.
It's far better to waste an hour once figuring out a job posting was a waste of time than to waste 5 minutes 200 times finding out job postings are a waste of time.
You vet them once they ask you for an interview/phone screen. Vetting takes a lot more time than applying. So apply, then if it matters, check them out.