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Here comes Arch Linux with the parts for a steel chair! Now they're pulling out the instructions for putting it together! Uh oh, the instructions say what kind of bolts they need, but not how many! Arch is trying to fit it all together anyway! Hmm, looks like some of the assembly steps are missing... ok, Arch has got something that looks like a chair constructed... now they're going to test it by sitting down... oh, and the chair frame has held together but the seat has fallen off. Arch forgot about not breaking user space again!
And now here comes Gentoo with a... a coal forge? Oh my God he's forging a steel chair from a metal blank! But what's this? Hes pulling out a smaller forge to forge a hammer for the bigger forge! The humanity!
And now here comes Debian, he enters the room and sits on chair that was there for few years already, and sits there for the next few years
And oh my god, here comes Windows with a steel chair! Its a fine chair that almost anyone can sit in, as long as its updated regularly and paid for, or else they take off two of the legs. She whacks you with it, but only with the long end of the chair by default, which really stings. If you prefer to be hit with the flat of the chair, she desperately tries to convince you that being hit with the Edge is better.
this thread is hilarious
I never used Gentoo. Was it really that bad lol
I briefly experimented with it ages ago. And I mean ages ago, like 20+ years ago. Maybe it's changed somewhat since then, but my understanding is that Gentoo doesn't provide binary packages. Everything gets compiled from source using exactly the options you want and compiled exactly for your hardware. That's great and all but it has two big downsides:
Compiling your own kernel was often useful or even necessary back in the day. I think it was the only package I regularly compiled for myself back then, and I think I was on red hat
The bit about the small forge forging a forge is skewering the Gentoo concept of toolchain bootstrapping.
Problem: how can you claim to have compiled the entire system on your own local machine if you need a compiler to compile a compiler? Where do you get that compiler from?
Solution: Use an external compiler to compile a compiler. Then use that compiler that you just compiled to compile itself again. Then use that second compiler to recompile the rest of the system.
It's compilers all the way down.