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Does nobody who says this remember their days in highschool?
Let's say a bedtime of 9
School gets out at 3
Allot about 2 hours for homework, it's now 5
Allot an hour for dinner, it's 6
Congratulations! A kid has a whopping 3 hours of free time per weekday to enjoy the last few years of childhood. These are even relatively conservative numbers, HW could easily stretch into 3-4+ hours with an AP class or a particularly HW heavy teacher leaving a whole hour of free time! How wonderful.
Oops wait, a strict parent(s) now adds an additional hour for household chores, ah well so much for free time.
It's unfortunate if they want to exchange sleep for free time but that's up to them. I made that decision too.
The whole point is that they shouldn't have to make that choice...
I also made that choice, so I know exactly how unhealthy it is to either 1) not have any time in the day to decompress and mentally prepare myself for the next day or 2) Revenge stay up so that I can do 1 but only get 5-6 hours of sleep.
I'm just saying there is an option to those who want to sleep longer. Later starting time wouldn't change things there. Shorter school days maybe.
Not having any free time in your life from ages 13-19 is not an "option".
You do seem a bit sleep deprived. I was talking about going to bed earlier, it's an option for more sleep.
the whole damn point is that teenagers can't just choose to go to sleep earlier, all that would result in is them laying wide awake in bed and missing out on time to socialize.
Is this a scientifically shown thing, that teenagers can't go to bed early?
It's proven they can't wake up early. Hence the calls to push school back.
That'll just leave them more free time during the evening, but I guess if it fits their schedule better. Dunno if it would help
And I'm saying, with how dense an average teenager's schedule is, going to sleep earlier results in them having no free time in their lives. It's just sleep, school, homework, sleep, school, homework.
That's no life. I know, I lived through it. What you're suggesting is an illusion of choice. Not to mention that as a teenager I could get in bed at 9 and just stare at the wall until 3am. One does not simply "go to bed" when your brain is simmering in hormones.
It sucks, but as things are those are the options for them. Either less sleep and more free time or cutting back on free time.
One does not simply "go to bed" when your brain is simmering in hormones.
Worked for us during camp. Took a while to get to the rhythm but worked. Dunno if it's an actual thing that teenagers have to sleep on a schedule where they have to stay up late. If so, sucks, then they got no choice.
It sucks, but as things are those are the options for them. Either less sleep and more free time or cutting back on free time.
Worked for us during camp. Took a while to get to the rhythm but worked. Dunno if it's an actual thing that teenagers have to sleep on a schedule where they have to stay up late. If so, sucks, then they got no choice.
Your whole argument basically boils down to "tough titties". I regret engaging.
People keep thinking everything said online is an argument. I'm just telling you those are their options. It's tough titties for them since they really can't affect when their school starts.
Don't be angry at me that that's how it is. I didn't make it so.
Well duh. As adults, authority figures and parents that's our job to push for these things and get it done for them. Just because we had to suffer through it doesn't mean the status quo should remain the same. That's the same BS "pull up the ladder behind me" attitude that's affecting so many other things.
What is the same "pull up the ladder behind me” attitude?
I'm just talking about the situation right now. I can't do anything about that.
This is like kids getting mad when they learn their parents aren't all powerful. I just can't snap my fingers and change the situation. Wish I could, friendo.
It sucks, but as things are those are the options for them. Either less sleep and more free time or cutting back on free time.
Worked for us during camp. Took a while to get to the rhythm but worked. Dunno if it's an actual thing that teenagers have to sleep on a schedule where they have to stay up late. If so, sucks, then they got no choice.
Älä jauha paskaa, sinäkin olit joskus teini.
That's why I know. I could've slept longer. Chose not to.