[Outdated, please look at pinned post] Casual Conversation

You know what I see?

I'm married. 20 years. I do my best to be good to her and vice versa. All but one of our married friends are decent men and women that treat each other well. The one exception is a guy who was always a total dick and sloughed off his responsibilities as a dad and husband. Pretty sure he has some kind of anti social personality disorder. The divorce was and bitter. Fuck that asshole. They married really young.

Anyway. The point is, my anecdotal experience is very different from yours. Good healthy relationships aren't possible with manosphere dickheads.

Yeah they might attract some women, the ones that have some big issues to work on. Nobody who has healthy self esteem is going to put up with that shit.

So what does that tell you about how well girls are treated growing up? There are way too many traumatized girls growing into traumatized women. I've read and heard so many stories of women having to sort themselves out so they can stop dating these shit bags.

The assholes may prey on vulnerable women but in the end those guys are going to be on their Nth failed marriage and bitter and never point the finger at themselves.

Meanwhile the relatively decent guys usually find someone and manage to build an actual life together with that person based on mutual respect and partnership. I've seen it over and over and over again.

Also every man likely has things to learn about regarding sexism. I did and I will always be learning more. I wished I had known in my teens what I know now. We are all steeped in this sexist, racist, competitive, exploitative culture and even if we don't want it to, some of that poison infects lur own thinking. It's inescapable. But it's also something we can recognize and fight too.

Also, no, half the country isn't assholes. Just less than half that actually vote. So maybe 1/3.