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Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

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[–] Comrade_Joshu@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

My thoughts on Israel’s plan. Given their complete collapse into genocidal fascism:

  • Humiliate Muslim nations. If Muslim nations don’t respond Israel will have set a new paradigm where they know they can do anything they like and there’s no precedent for intervention. Then, use that to expand into the Sinai and Jordan, possibly more.

  • If there is intervention: go nuclear. The US might think it will benefit from a contained nuclear conflict by testing out strategies of containing a nuclear conflict. Israel may think it will benefit by restoring the possibility of nuclear war and use that to expand into the Sinai and Jordan, possibly more.

I really think it’s a mistake to not do an oil blockade. The surrounding Arab nations are sealing their fate and will come to regret acting in self interest today.

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree only because either way you slice it there's no defending your actions at that point. Israel won't be able to claim self defense if they start a world war or drop a nuke somewhere. I don't know what the pushback would be but the paradigm of the entire world would change.

[–] Comrade_Joshu@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, the U.S. invaded Iraq and Afghanistan with effectively zero pushback or consequences. I think Israel, backed by the U.S., is in the process of creating such a paradigm shift for itself.