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[-] AE5NE@lemmy.radio 3 points 11 months ago

Plant- or algae- derived oils may work better. The key is to not extract hundreds of billions of tons of hydrocarbons that have been sequestered for 100 million years.

[-] sonori@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

We could also scale synthetic fuel made from atmospheric carbon, we’ve had the tech for decades after all, it’s just a lot more expensive than stealing it from the ground. While algae might be easier, i have doubts as to plant based biofuel owing largely to the land and water use required to scale up to the levels we need. I don’t doubt that with greenhouses and desalination it could be done, but labor, capital, and effort wise i would expect algae or chemical systhasis to come out on top.

Problem is that either way it takes more energy to make than it receives, which when we constantly burn oil for power is a net loss, but at the same time it’s the only long term solution for applications like long term flight.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

There are very real limits to biofuel availability which are going to limit how much we can use them. Maybe for a few long-haul flights, but its mostly going to be travel avoidance and better surface transport which replaces aviation

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Like trains? I hear every time a train is built Elon feels unimaginable pain. We should build more trains.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

Trains are great. Electric aircraft are a possibility

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Cargo Zeppelins would be really cool. Not very practical, but still

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