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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

yeah because the average american can help with that

we are powerless over here, I can vote for sleepy joe and that is literally the only thing I can do about this

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can vote in all other elections too, which would make a re-election of him have less bite.

It's through eroding all systems between local mayor and the presidency that the right wing has any power.

The president has no power if all layers below his position are steadfast against him.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I vote every time. It doesn’t mean it will make a change. My state is already a blue state. It doesn’t tip the balance because the balance is broken.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also not really an option for a majority of rational people, if you live in a swing state absolutely but our political system by design gives rural states vastly more power than urban ones, and most people aren’t exactly about to move to shitfuck nowhere, missouri to try and change the political landscape there.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Which is why they said to vote in every election and not only focus on rhe Presidency. Conservatives have spent decades installing ideologues in every level of government, and it needs to be undone

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can try to convince other people who would've stayed home to vote instead... That's essentially multiplying your vote.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

everyone I know well enough that I could try to convince is already an active voter and will vote left (even if we arent happy about it) 🤷‍♂️

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You don't have a left option

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good for you, but that’s not the situation the average American is in. Most people still don’t vote, so someone reading this would likely be able to do something.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Im glad we both agree that your suggestion is not helpful to me

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe -1 points 11 months ago

I suspected nothing I said would’ve been helpful for you anyway - it was more for other people reading.