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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I hate how these things are such deathtraps. The concept itself has to be the coolest flying vehicle humans ever came up with, combining the advantages of the two modes of aerial locomotion

[–] deranger@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What you get is both downsides rather than both advantages. It can’t fly fast enough for fixed wing, nor can it fly slow enough for rotary, meaning it can’t effectively be escorted. It doesn’t have the range or speed of fixed wing, nor can’t it hover as well as a helicopter. It requires special logistical channels. It’s finicky to fly and high maintenance. Because the rotors are so heavily loaded it creates significant rotor wash and it’s especially susceptible to vortex ring state. It can’t glide like fixed wing and can’t autorotate like rotary for a power loss in flight.

It’s garbage. The idea of using these for rescue or VIP transport is laughable.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m kinda shocked they’re still using them. There have seemingly been a lot of crashes over the past few years.

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

According to the wiki there have been over 20 accidents and 33 deaths because of these

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

But what's the cost to decommission/replace?..

That's the only factor that seems to really matter.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was under the impression most of the crashes were early on and after they fixed issues and improved it the crash rate went to more like other aircraft. I know the marines really liked them for some reason and fought to keep the project going because at one point it was close to being canceled. Looking it up though I can't tell.

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, two fatal crashes in a year doesn't sound like a normal crash rate to me.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

yeah I was looking at wikipedia and im pretty sure any military crash with fatalities would make the news for any aircraft so it does still seem like a lot.

[–] kite@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hate how these things are such deathtraps.

I live near a military base, and the base runs a lot of nighttime training over the forest my house is in. It is not unusual for Osprey to literally hover over my house. They get so close that the whole house shakes, and the sound from them is so loud it covers up a normal-volumed conversation. It doesn't bother us, but every time it happens I think of all the crashes 😬

We can also hear the base when it has bombing practice! Sitting on our deck and hearing bombs going off is a surreal experience. I can't imagine what it's like to hear those in an actual war situation.