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[–] OutOfMemory@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are dragons gendered to begin with? I suppose it depends on the lore you follow.

[–] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All we know is they are horny AF.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Especially for cars, for some reason.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

It really does depend on the Lore and/or species of dragon within the lore.

Some are hermaphrodites, meaning they have both pairs of sex organs.

Some are asexual, and thus don't really have gender, they might be seen as female since they would bear similarity to females of sexually reproducing species but it isn't the same and they likely would not have the roles and behaviors associated with gender.

Some do have gender and are sexually monomorphic, meaning they look the same and develop the same regardless of their sex/gender, only difference is their reproductive organs.

Then there are ones that are sexually dimorphic and have great differences between the sexes and how the develop, differences such as size and strength, or colored markings, or both.

Out of these only the last one would benefit from hormones, and even then it would depend on species.

All of this assumes that Magic or shapeshifting isn't on the table, if it is this all goes out the window because they're no longer restricted to how their bodies are formed and basically have full control of the gender, sex, and species they choose to present as. Most of the stories I've seen the dragons have either full or limited shapeshifting abilities.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe they are in pretty much all lore but they are inherently magical creatures that are able in some lore to change their outward appearance completely.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen where they are asexual which is pretty close to not being gendered, but many times they'll still be referred to with gendered pronouns, despite not really having gender due to being asexual.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can be asexual and still have a gender. That's not how gender or sexually really work.

[–] YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They probably meant asexual as in 'lack of sexes', similarly used when talking about asexual reproduction

edit: Their other comment pretty much confirms this

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's what I meant, should've been more clear.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I meant they reproduce asexually, not as sexuality. Asexually reproducing organisms tend to not really have a concept of biological sex because they don't sexually reproduce, there aren't males and females in a species like that, they just all lay eggs that develop as a clone of the parent.

I guess it wouldn't really stop them from having a gender identity but there aren't exactly gender roles for them to fit into so it's hard to say how it would work, probably similar to how NonBinary gender works with humans.