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Beeper reverse-engineered iMessage to bring blue bubble texts to Android users::The push to bring iMessage to Android users today adds a new contender. A startup called Beeper, which had been working on a multi-platform messaging

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[–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s not just about the color of the bubbles. I have Wi-Fi at work but poor cell signal. Because I have an iPhone and my husband has an android, we have to use another chat client to text while I’m at work. No cell signal means no texting android phones for me, because I can only text people with iMessage over Wi-Fi.

Plus, remember: kids have phones. They do get bullied over chat bubble colors, just like I got bullied for wearing clothes from Walmart in school. It doesn’t have to be this way, it’s Apple’s fault for making iMessage a walled garden.

[–] kia@lemmy.ca 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is it even a garden though? I don't see any benefit in using it over something like Signal other than it coming pre-installed on your phone.

[–] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

Sure, but they wont. The insidious thing about iMessenger is that it isnt iChat. It is the apple default text messaging app. Which is good because it means that all your messages are in one place, and you dont have to try to convince your older family member to install a 3rd party chat app. You just have a chat app. This tricks users not into thinking that texting is just better on apple.

But its bad because it only works between other apple products and users. This is objectively Apple's shortcoming, however there are enough iPhones in the wild and enough people in the US who defaulted to just hitting the sms/mms icon instead of downloading a chat app that the odd man out might be the android user. And it's not just about the green bubble being green. If you invite an a green bubble to a group text then all your rich chat messenger features go away and it turns into an MMS thread. Which is objectively bad.

But yes they could just download and use whatsapp,line, telegram, signal, facebook messenger(and in the early days things like aim/yim/msn) But they dont. The fact is their default messenger app works, and it works well with most people they talk to so the problem is the green text.

It's especially silly when you consider the "there's an app for that" generation of user and so many things are apps but they refuse to engage on other chat channels. People download different apps to get dates, the navigate, to browse websites that shouldnt even be apps, to order food, order groceries, order taxi's, but a chat app just to talk with you? ehhhhhhhhh.

[–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know honestly, now that I’ve typed that I’m not sure. I don’t do a lot of texting audio snippets or other stuff other people do, so maybe, maybe not.

The problem is, I should be able to text people at default without worrying I have cell signal or if group chats are going to work correctly, instead of needing to ask people what 3rd party chat service they prefer.

[–] AThing4String@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

needing to ask people what 3rd party chat service they prefer

Yeah Signal's great and all, but my spouse's family refuses to use anything but WhatsApp, half my family uses FB Messenger while the other half use Discord (and they are feuding about it), the older folks in my hobby group refuse to learn anything but the default text on their phone (that group chat is an unmanageable NIGHTMARE), and anything from work uses teams.....except the US folks who use slack, and now my friends want to get me on Signal, too? Relevant XKCD.

The solution to my problem is not yet another messaging app. I just want ONE inbox!

I've been pretty happy with Beeper so far. There are some features that aren't quite as good as using each app natively, yet, but I think they're off to a great start considering the sheer scale and variety of interfaces they're working with. It even gives me tools to deal with the hobby chat anarchy, and now I can send default SMS messages from my computer!

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Beeper Mini is working towards an all-in-one app. We'll see what happens

[–] Toes@ani.social 3 points 11 months ago

In some cases you can manually select the type of service on your phone. Try changing your phone manually to 3g and see if that helps. I find it works well in areas where I have poor LTE/5G coverage.