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I'm an openSuse user for quite some time without any issues tbh. Just wanted to enter the Arch world and see if there is any significant difference.
Then literally just use Arch. I don't understand why people want Arch but then install something different. If you don't want to go through the install process then it's honestly just not for you, but if you really want to try anyway give EndeavourOS a shot.
I'm on OpenSuse and it's great. If you're tempted by Arch, go straight up Arch. Manjaro doesn't give any pluses here, only negatives.
Don't listen to people like this.
Installing arch is a pain in the ass and the vast majority of people should not go through with it. If you like to tinker, go with arch. If you want a machine that just works out of the box, go with Manjaro.
If you don't believe me, see for yourself. Don't just believe people on the internet at face-value. Most of them are just regurgitating things they don't understand in order to fit in.
While Manjaro is perfectly fine, this is no longer true. With the
archinstall
script you can have even Arch up and running in minutes. It's still not graphical or straightforward as a Manjaro installation, but it's certainly not painful. EndeavourOS may be the closest to Arch with simple installation.I keep hearing this but haven't tried it myself.
No idea why you are getting downvoted.
A great middle-ground is EndeavourOS. It has a great installer. It makes pretty decent choices. You have a pretty much 100% pure Arch system after install. There are only a couple dozen EndeavourOS packages and most of them are utilities. You can remove all the EndeavourOS stuff in a couple of minutes if you really want to and comment out the repos. Not sure why you would. Just pointing out how vanilla it is.
Believe internet strangers? I had it on my laptop and Pinephone. After breaking twice on both, I went for Kubuntu then OpenSuse for desktop and PostmarketOS on the Pinephone.
You may be cheerleading for Manjaro but don't discount experience of people that went there, suffered and want others to not suffer. If you really need easy to use Arch, EndeavourOS is far superior.
Okay, I'll keep waiting for the day that never comes.
I would recommend reading through the first parts of the arch install tutorial, particularly the network connection through the terminal. If you're comfortable with that, the archinstall utility makes the rest of the process effortless. I've had Manjaro bork itself but not just plain arch.