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[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At first glance, none.

But then "willingness" and "money" rarely mix well. Yeah, there are humans "willing" to be paid for their plasma but it's a marginalized part of the population trying to have just enough money to survive.

I'm sorry. I'm trying not to ruin the meme any further.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People donate blood, plasma, sperm and breast milk from all walks of life already. Some get paid too.

If you want it to be about a particular group in can be, but even well off people donate/get money for their bodily fluids.

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donation is one thing completely different than selling their fluids. There's no incentive to exploit people when there's not a payback in cash.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And people sell them too already. They aren’t exploited.

Yeah there will be people that try to abuse it, that applies to literally everything in life and should never be the reason to not do something.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's the definition of exploitation

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless they are forced to it can’t be exploitation.

Now if they work health benefits into instead of just paying better wages, that would be more on the exploitation side. But thats the bad eggs ruining it for the other 98% that don’t abuse it.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's definitely exploitation. you just don't like the connotation. they are being exploited for their blood just like a well is exploited for oil a mountain is exploited for minerals and forests are exploited for wood.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Exploit has multiple meanings, exploiting a resource and exploiting someone in an underhand or unfair way do have the same phrase to explain them. But exploiting a resource is obviously much different than treating workers unfairly.

Verbs and nouns typically have different meanings for the same word, maybe time for an English refresher.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

since you clearly went to a dictionary, you can see none of the definitions even mention "force".

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are other words in the definitions that mean the same.

What do you think unfair and underhanded means….?

to be clear, my definition is correct, and you are objecting to the connotation of other definitions. this is very much your problem .

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using it correctly. don't be condescending. you might think it's a fair exploitation, but it's exploitation nonetheless.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not your decision it make. Hazard pay exists for a reason, many people view that as exploitation as well. Doesn’t make it so, sorry.

Words have different meanings, and you missed the mark thinking it was like mining.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you missed the mark

oh, I think I hit something.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

calling me names doesn't change whether I'm right

by the barest definition, it is exploitation.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mounds and greens have nothing to do with this. we are only using the transitive verb here.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if they are paid fairly it’s not exploitation anymore. That’s their decision to make, not yours.

pay isn't part of the definition of exploitation, either