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While many central banks around the world are still trying to cool inflation, China is grappling with falling prices.

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) dropped 0.5% in November on an annual basis, the biggest fall since the depths of the pandemic three years ago, according to data released by China’s National Bureau of Statistics on Saturday.

The drop marked an acceleration in the rate of deflation from October, when the CPI fell 0.2% from a year earlier, and prompted calls for urgent action from Beijing to boost demand and prevent a downward spiral of prices.

The data come days after Chinese policymakers vowed to strengthen fiscal and monetary support to boost the world’s second biggest economy, which is struggling with a real-estate crisis, high youth unemployment and subdued consumer confidence.

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[–] soupcat@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

China just makes what people ask it to. So many places moved all their production to China for cheap labour, and most companies trying to skimp on one thing are also going to skimp on others like materials and quality control. iPhones are also made in China and most people consider them to be high quality. The problem is more just capitalism than China specifically.

[–] fugacity@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well, capitalism definitely has a role, but it's not exactly a coincidence that China started out with cheap labor (and maintained it so). A country that manipulates its currency for specifically for export reasons is definitely also to blame. (Before you say but US also manipulates currency, the levels of currency manipulation are not comparable: if they were, BRICs would be our world reserve currency)

Anyways, new places don't go to China for labor, they go for overall manufacturing costs.

All that said, from my (somewhat limited) experience Chinese manufacturing is sort of a niche. If you're willing to invest all the resources into NRE and QC and not afraid of corporate espionage of your manufactured product, you can definitely save a lot of money (China really isn't all that good for prototype or small batch manufacturing if you need a made-to-order part/product as the headache from language barrier and quality issues are greater than the cost savings). Apple clearly makes it work because they don't care if you copy their PCBs - good luck copying their custom-designed ICs.

[–] soupcat@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

This is true, China certainly hasn't helped the situation, although from where they were I can understand them wanting to capitalise on it. I just don't like it when people blanket say that things made in China are bad. The reputation is obviously there for a reason, but it's almost just as often western companies that share the blame for general low quality, mass produced, disposable things.