News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
I absolutely agree that it's weird and it's not fine right now. All I responded to was the oft-repeated and false claim that they changed the definition of recession, and then attributed that to some conspiracy theory to silence them.
It will absolutely be talked about, but just as likely as how it was a huge win for the fed if the soft landing happens, and that appears more and more likely at this point.
I guess that is fair. I'm just not that against it when people think it feels like a recession to them. The brunt of this soft landing is not even. It really does feel like it for a lot of lower class people being laid off or struggling to find work. I know of whole warehouses that have closed up in the last year or 2.
So for them... They are in a recession. My point is that it's a term that has no solid definition. It's truly arbitrary to the person who is making the claim and on a global level it might not be happening but in smaller sectors it feels like hell.
But that person did say that they changed the definition when it really just doesn't have one other than agreed idea of what it should look like. And based on what we all classically think of as a recession this ain't it. And thinking it's a conspiracy against us and not just wealth classes being completely unsynced is a bit silly, even if I want them to use their voice to complain.
This is the problem tho, it's all anecdotal. Recessions aren't individual things, because there are always going to be losers in any economy. Unemployment is at all time lows. Wage growth is beating inflation (and some of the biggest beneficiaries of this have been low wage workers). Inflation back down near desired levels. There's tons of reason to be optimistic about the state of the economy. Don't get me wrong, there is a long way to go to make up for what was lost over the pandemic and the subsequent inflationary period, but economic outlook looks good now.
The doom and gloom is being amplified by Republicans in an attempt to hurt Biden's chances of re-election. I wish people wouldn't repeat their lies and help Trump get elected at the same time.
The world is a complicated place. The fact that one can't precisely define something and there is a grey zone doesn't make any claim, even those that fall clearly outside of that grey zone, valid. "It's complicated, so any opinion is valid" is just not something we should get behind, as it justifies all kind of nonsense, like climate-change denial.
It's all anecdotal, folks.
I won't vote for Trump, I just don't like having to eat a shit pie and being told it's french silk caramel, and if I say otherwise I'm Republican, Uneducated, or something else equally insulting.
Except noone of substance is telling you anything is french silk caramel. Your whole position is based on a incorrect premise that is the result of what appears to be a false dichotomy.
If you're position is this detached from reality, it's no surprise you're being accused of being uneducated or something equally insulting.
Mmm, beg to differ. Your whole position is tedious and pedantic.
The whole debate is over the definition of a word so of course it's going to be pedantic. Lol I'm not even sure you understand what that words mean.
"OMG we're in a recession"
"Well, no not technically because the definition you are using is not the actual definition"
"OMG you're trying to tell me the economy is french silk caramel!"
"Uh that's not what they're saying"
It this is "pedantry" then surely you don't understand the term.
Tell me you don't understand language and simultaneously logic without telling me
You waited 12 days to respond with this garbage? lol I would have just moved on. It's like your desperate to remind everyone how dumb you are.
I'm not saying "they changed the definition". I'm saying "too many things about the way this term is gatekept from general use are flawed, and done for political gain sometimes, the average discussion of what is happening right now being one of them". It depends on the context whether a more academic definition standard should be expected, and even then it's not as straightforward as whoever is trying to shut down its use likes to pretend, and so perhaps a less-important hill to die on than whatever discussion is happening at that point in time."
Funny that after making up an claim that people are serving you shit while claiming it's a delicacy, you would turn around and claim you aren't saying they changed the definition after almost explicitly doing so.
For all your whining about nuance, you sure love to take the most reductionist (straw-manned) interpretation of things and come out of the gate swinging with insults. Excuse me while I use this to justify dismissing your pedantry.
This is a whole lot of empty nothing. Most people when thoroughly beaten slink off. A select noble few admit they are wrong. Less intelligent avoid an actual debate by doing stupid shit. A good example is throwing out big-ish words they don't understand.