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Nick Fuentes, a white nationalist who dined with Donald Trump last year, said on a livestream that "perfidious Jews" should be executed.

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[–] slowd0wn@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure they only hate Jewish immigrants. There seems to be a lot of crossover between American anti-semites and people who want Israel to carpet bomb Gaza

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As an American Jew: They hate all Jews. They see us as having no loyalty to our country (their evidence being: we're Jews - and that's it). They see us as controlling the world's markets and all the other anti-semitic tropes that have circulated for thousands of years.

When it comes to Israel, they approve of it for four main reasons:

  1. Among the evangelicals, they think Jews running Israel is the first step towards Jesus returning. The second step is a huge attack on Israel and then Jesus would return and toss all the Jews into hell. This "support for Israel" is just delayed anti-semitism. They're willing to put up with Jews there because they think they'll benefit (be taken to heaven) while Jews will suffer.

  2. Among the white supremacist groups, Israel is seen as a convenient dumping grounds for American Jews. If they ever get their wet dream of expelling all us "traitorous Jews," they'll just ship us all off to Israel. Nevermind that most of us don't trace our ancestry to Israel for thousands of years. Nevermind that we've been American citizens for generations. We're Jews so they would declare that Israel is where we "belong" and ship us off to rid "their country" of Jews.

  3. Among the bigots (which includes white supremacists), there is hatred for Muslims as well. Israel opposes Muslim countries/groups. Therefore, they see Israel as a temporary... Well, not really an ally as much as a tool. They will "support" Israel and help them kill Muslims. If Israelis get slaughtered, the bigots don't care. After all, those are likely just Jews over there. This ignores that Israelis can be Jewish, Christian, or even Muslim - but since when have bigots cared about distinctions when a stereotype will suffice?

  4. Among the politicians, it gives them talking points. Not only with the evangelicals and white supremacists, but with the Jewish community. The politicians can say that they "support Israel" and some Jews (like my parents) get fooled into thinking that this means they support Jews in America. Nope. They are more than willing to give Israel support, but Jews at home are "globalist traitors who must be dealt with as soon as possible." Not that most politicians would say this part out loud. They'd use dogwhistles, but there's a growing segment that doesn't bother with dogwhistles.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Very well said. My entire life I've been treated as a foreigner in my own country.

And I am sure it is not just Jews by any means. I'm sure Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, etc. also get this treatment. Basically, anyone non-Christian can't possibly be an American, even if your family has been here for four generations.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’m a straight white guy, raised as a fundy, not one any more, they wouldn’t come for my kind first, but they would come for me eventually if I didn’t die first or “repent from sinful ways”

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Oh! You dotted some lines for me there! Especially "Jews at home" vs. "Jews elsewhere".

Some of that I had connected, much I had not. Thanks!

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

It's partially A: they hate Muslims even more, and B: Israel is key to their apocalyptic doomsday prophecy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

As a native-born Jew, trust me, they hate us too.