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[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 140 points 9 months ago

I think there's something fundamentally wrong with British culture. How do they keep electing such garbage politicians? It's like every decision they make looks awful to everyone but Brits only realize it after the fact.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 134 points 9 months ago

While you are not wrong it's worth noting he was not elected by the public and even worse before he was basically handed the job he ran (internaly) on a platform of fixing the economy he fucked as chancellor of the exchequer

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 63 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well someone keeps voting in the fucking tories. If they didn't, he wouldn't be PM right now.

[-] TheMongoose@kbin.social 36 points 9 months ago

While true, the Tory party that won the last election looks a bit different to the gobshites that are in government now.

Don't get me wrong, I thought the last lot were assholes as well, but while technically legal, swapping out basically all of the government several times seems like a bit of a bait and switch.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah same can be said for republicans. Seems like conservative parties around the western world are going batshit crazy lately

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[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No it's the same gobshites. Boris was leader at the last election, Sunak and co are part of the same group. The anti-conservatives conservative party. All the conservatives were culled from the party. The people in the party causing trouble for Rishi are those further to the right and people who believe Boris can turn it all around again.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

A minority voted for them, and not even a large one.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Who did the majority vote for?

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Other parties; the votes are always split between lots of parties, which themselves have lots of factions.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

All I can say is it wisny me

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I hate this excuse, everyone knows how parliaments work. You vote for representatives that form a government. Everyone votes for their own constituency only but not everyone ends up with dickheads so consistently.

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 14 points 9 months ago

Sure, but Sunak wasnt even the second choice for the Tories during the last election. He's in the Gerald Ford grey zone where no one feels like they voted for him, making him seem illegitimate. The British public voted for the Tories in 2019 (because they are morons) with the expectation that Boris Johnson would be in charge. Now the head of the party has resigned twice since then. In theory it'sall standard procedure for Parliament, but it's a clearly unstable government and viewed as a farce at this point.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

with the expectation that Boris Johnson would be in charge

I'm not sure this make it any better. It's not like Boris Johnson hid the fact that he was a Tory. At a certain point I'm just going to stop saying "I told you so" and start calling you an idiot.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

It's still possible to be unfair to idiots, though.
If an idiot believes he can face down a speeding freight train, but only if it's yellow then, in his eyes, it's just not cricket if the one that turns him into jam is in fact blue.

[-] 01011@monero.town 3 points 9 months ago

In what way was Johnson better than Sunak?

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

He wasn't better, he just had more legitimatacy since he was the party leader during the last election. Hell, Sunak resigned from said government before Johnson resigned. That's why there were calls for a new election after Truss resigned, but the Tories refused because they knew they would get clobbered at the polls.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

everyone knows how parliments work.

I think you vastly over estimate the knowledge of your average love island watching, down the pub every night after work, get their entire worldview from Facebook, British person.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

The guy that was elected by the public was Boris Johnson, who is arguably even worse.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I agree but sadly that gave him more legitimacy than this bell end

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

He lost the only party member leadership vote he took part in. He lost to someone completely detached from reality, that immediately sought to destroy the value of most people pensions that only benefitted a few hedge funds looking to profit from the UKs demise.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Your preaching to the choir. If it were up to me the whole party wouldn't get a wiff of power from the first time I was old enough to vote.

Instead "I got my way" once with these asshats running this shithole even further into the ground ever since

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

Britain elects parties who then choose the leader. Thats how weve had so many different PMs. Its not like for example where the people elect an individual for four years.

We had a PM who lasted less time than a lettuce. All chosen by the conservative party

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Look who is voting and who isn't.

[-] Piatro@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Another commenter said this but the last two prime ministers were only chosen by the conservative party membership, not by general election. So about 30,000 people have decided the ruler of the country for the past couple of years. You can argue about PMs before then but First Past the Post voting also has a lot to answer for.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

From an American: We have no idea!

(Tongue in cheek)

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

We didn't vote for him, and i did not vote for his party at the last election. Now i get to take it in the butt by his policies.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It bugs me when they say that they are doing this and that “for the will of the people” when the majority of the people didn’t vote for them. And even if they did, it might have been for a different reason than the thing that they are talking about at the time.

[-] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 2 points 9 months ago

Idealistically, you'd hope that the leader of the country would be looking out for their people and doing things that help the people primarily.

Usually when they say that though it's when they're quietly handing out huge contracts to their friends and family to do the thing they're talking about, for example Sunak corruptly giving his wife's company allocations from the national budget.

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