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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Somewhat related, but I learned today that Phil Shea who worked as the prop master on the office, died by suicide earlier this week, he was 62. He had a family and friends who loved him, but clearly wasn't speaking to anyone about what was really going on in his head. Older guys tend to be more closed up about speaking up

[–] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cuz society mocks and looks down upon men who open up and talk. There's very little room for error being a man.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Every time I've opened up it's been ignored at best and ridiculed at worst. I just stopped.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Thankfully I have a spouse I can open up to 100% with and will make me feel heard and supported. When I'm at a boiling point, she's good at helping me to ease up. If it wasn't for her though, my mental health would be in the gutter.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I know the feeling.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Thankfully this is changing... I see a clear divide in attitudes in my workplace between the boomers nearing retirement, and the new kids (Gen Z) that are coming in fresh out of college. And all I can say is: good riddance. Boomers are fucking toxic, but the Gen Z kids see right through that bullshit.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"But this generation is different!"

Give me a break.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As an old guy (well old enough) I understand the sentiment. We are the providers, the protectors, the ones that aren’t supposed to show weaknesses or vulnerabilities. As an older gen x’er we weren’t taught how to talk about our feelings. It can be tough for sure.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

For those who don't know, this is the other end of the toxic masculinity spectrum - the cultural idea that there is a certain way men are supposed to act, and we're perceived as weak or effeminate if we don't. We don't allow (or aren't allowed to) ourselves to express our emotions in a healthy way, so we bottle them up until the stress either kills us, or we kill ourselves.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Phil Shea

Oh shit actually a name I've heard that means something to me. That's no fun news :(