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If Russia wins in Ukraine, the US may be stretched so thin it would leave the door wide open for China, war analysts warn (www.businessinsider.com)
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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 75 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Again threatening us with a good time, but unfortunately this is probably worth as much as the pile of manure western think tanks were feeding the world in Ukraine topic before.

So i read it and yup, the exact same manure and it's still sprinkled with copium

It would give China the green light to flex its power over a weakened US and cost US taxpayers an "astronomical" sum to pay for beefed-up defense spending.

"Such an outcome would bring a battered but triumphant Russian army right up to NATO's border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean,"

That would mean that the US would be forced to deploy a "sizable portion" of its ground forces to Eastern Europe

Literally every paragraph is crybullying and saberratling. They really get paid heavy money for that regurgitated nonsense?

[–] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

expand NATO to meet Russia's borders

cry that the russian army is right up to NATO's border

???

[–] KKSankara@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just like when they cried that the USSR put nukes in Cuba after the US already put nukes in Turkey, and a shit load of other countries right next to the USSR. But it's the Russians that are aggressive and militaristic.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Thank you to my high school modern history teacher who was also the football coach for telling my about the Turkey nukes during the unit on the cold war, and also for showing us how to flick a coin like a tiny frisbee

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

It's fine when we do it but not when they do it.

Western brain in action.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I’ve definitely known people like this

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What I love the most about these articles is how they just treat the idea that US needs to dominate the world militarily as being axiomatic. It's never explained why this is in the interest of American people, it's just a given that US will have to keep expanding the military at the cost of the standard of living of its people because reasons.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 11 months ago

Imperialism is non-negotiable.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 11 months ago

It's simple, if the US stopped, the empire would fall, and then the evil China takes over. Silly tankie.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’ve experienced some violence in my life, and I consider the fact that I need to be ready to protect myself to be axiomatic too. I honestly can’t remember why I didn’t think that way before, but I know that ever since being terrified as someone tried to kill me, nothing is okay unless I’m safe. The fact that I need to maintain the capacity for violence and the capacity to win that violence is just built into me now. Like needing to breathe.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 11 months ago

Except, the difference with your analogy is that US is not a victim of violence, it's the country that goes around the world to invade and brutalize other countries. It's a country equivalent of a sadistic serial killer.

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

There is no universe in which the US is the victim

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would give China the green light to flex its power over a weakened US and cost US taxpayers an "astronomical" sum to pay for beefed-up defense spending.

So the excessive military spending by the US empire is China's fault somehow.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Damn those scheming asiatics, DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 11 months ago

“Such an outcome would bring a battered but triumphant Russian army right up to NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean,”

Wasn't that exactly what they promised Ukraine lol?

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 11 months ago

“Such an outcome would bring a battered but triumphant Russian army right up to NATO’s border from the Black Sea to the Arctic Ocean,”

I wonder if not expanding the de facto NATO-Russia border might have prevented the expansion of the NATO-Russia border 🤔

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

It’s not that complex. Yeah we can fight. No, it wouldn’t be good for us if we do.