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I understand your point, but those weren't the words he said. though I don't think that's going to make a difference.
I like RMS for what he did(and is doing) for the free software community. I can also talk about some uncanny things about Gandhi, but that doesn't make his contribution to the independence movement and his views on nonviolence any less relevant.
to me, a person should be seen in his entirety. because only fictional characters are without flaws.
People should indeed be seen in their entirety, the failure of this is why so many people get upset about Stallman.
The guy is routinely portrayed as a bastion of righteous good will, championing the little guy against the evil corporations. The hero worship is real.
Some of us see Stallman as a misogynistic asshole who routinely belittles people on mailing lists when they don’t agree with him and publicly defends people who sexually abuse children.
For some of us, it feels like we need to go out of our way to point this out because we don’t want a guy like that as the public face of something we care about.
what did ~~it~~ he say about women that makes him a misogynist?
Edit ok found this
https://www.arp242.net/rms.html
a pretty much reasonable, reasoned and merciless account on the figure of rms. I very largely agree with it - spoiler he isn't a misogynist, just a super massive weirdo
I once heard him described as "The smartest man to ever throw a tantrum like a 4 year old"
this thread is terrible... people reporting "I heard of"s as proofs. eh once I read, eeeh once someone told... once sjws bite, there's no chance they let go. and the most important thing is that 99.999999% of the people bad mouthing rms have at best fifth hand reports about him.
to all the superior etichs white knights: I'm not defending rms.
I'm very worried about the lynching, with proof based on I once read, i heard of, and also straight out of jealousy and envy.
rms, like suggested in the article I posted, could very well be a neuro divergent person. I wonder how many of all of these rabid dogs biting at him preach themselves as super supportive, super inclusive, 360° hexa-dimensional full rainbow, but then aren't able to understand the person they have in front of them. let's start by ruining someone. there's always time to say "I was wrong, I'd like to apologize. At the time I didn't know. I vow to be a better person."
Wrong person to post this in response to, dude
why, i thought you'd agree
Your comment came across as attacking me, and also as a little bit crazed. That said I completely agree with your last sentence, being able to admit you are wrong is a very important skill and one many people could do with learning (I try, I don;t always succeed but I try)
I agree with your point in spirit, but again, he didn't say any such thing. I haven't talked to him in person, so, I can only rely on internet to validate/refute those claims.
he is the public face of free software because others have their own terminologies(e.g.: open source championed by bruce perens and eric raymond), with which the GNU project disagrees.
Here you go, someone has done me the service of clearly laying out the case against Stallman here so that I don’t need to l: https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html
Which he did not do.
Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
Honestly I cannot see any way one could interpret his words like that
Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013