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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I'm blocking ads with e.g. a Pi Hole, does that violate this? In that case I'm not running ad blocking software on the unit itself. Can they realistically dictate what people do outside of the product?

Edit: and for that matter, if my internet goes out but I still use my TV, am I then liable for my ISP's outage?

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yes, using pihole would violate their ToS: https://www.freetelly.com/terms-of-service

(a) Use the Product as the primary television in Your household;

(b) Keep the Product connected to WiFi and internet; and

(c ) Not use any software on Your WiFi network that with advertising blocking capability.

(d) Not make physical modifications to the Product or attach peripheral devices to the Product not expressly approved by Telly. Any attempt to open the Product’s enclosure will be deemed an unauthorized modification.

If we discover that You are not abiding by the requirements above or have disconnected the Product from an internet connection or WiFi for more than short periods each month, You will no longer be able to use the Service and You must return any Products in your possession to Telly. Failure to return Products to Telly will result in Telly charging the credit card on file. If you do abide by the Terms of Service, your credit card will not be charged.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on, let me just hang a curtain in front of the secondary screen.

There, so much better :)

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you miss the fact that this TV has a camera that can count the number of viewers and can detect obstruction? Obstructing the ad screen broke the ToS and when they detect it, they can cancel your account and demand you too send the tv back or get charged $1000. Oh, and it's also have a microphone in addition to the camera, which will double the fun.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is obviously tongue-in-cheek but I didn't find anything on the TOS about obstructing the screen - a curtain isn't software, nor is it a modification to the TV, and could possibly be hung in a way that doesn't obstruct the sensor.

They can change their ToS at any time, so this doesn't really matter.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 2 points 1 year ago

You're right. Perhaps they count on their users to not obstruct the secondary screen because the smart tv features are controlled from the secondary smart screen, so you won't be able to operate it if you obstruct the secondary screen.

[–] durnt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

solution, route your network through a VPN with advertising blocking. It isn't your network that does the blocking

[–] hi_its_me@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting that it specifically says WiFi network. I wonder if you could circumvent by having something on your physical network. Or maybe upstream from your own network

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Damn. That's some crazy shit.

[–] DigitalWebSlinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part about keeping it connected to internet also struck me - what happens if my internet goes down for hours? Or my power, which will take my internet with it?

[–] redditcunts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You send it back or get charged.