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Serious question...Why are these Republicans so pro-Russia? I don't get it.
Because they envy Putin's oligarchy and the nationalism of the Russian population which makes them easy to control.
Make no mistake - these people want Gilead more than anything. I mean they literally keep saying it over and over again. They are domestic terrorists and enemies of the west. And everyone is going to pretend like this is a "difference of opinion" until it is too late.
Own the libs
Money. There's no way Russia/rich people/criminals aren't playing with these people. My conspiracy is that these people are so dumb they don't know that they are being used or they are just really narcissistic.
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hold on what are you on about this is so vague, are you saying theres vast criminal networks in yiur hometown hiding in plain sight? im so confused
Yeah, I wanna hear more about this!
What about Russia would they dislike?
Well they're always yelling about how liberals are socialist or communist, and Russia was previously socialist and communist. Also they say they don't like government to control things, and the Russian government controls everything. They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored, while all Russian media is state sponsored. So yeah, you would think they wouldn't like Russia, but only if you thought they actually believe the shit they say.
The current Russian regime uses heavy Anti-Soviet messaging, and demonizes socialism as much as American conservative politics. The USSR wasn't great for a lot of Russians.
I think emphasis here needs to be on "they say", yet most non-economic policy American conservatives tout (aka the culture wars) is about injecting more government intervention in the day to day lives of Americans. Ex: Christian Prayer in schools, banning books from libraries, anti-drag bills, banning racial-inequality education, anti-gay legislation, the list goes on and on. American conservatives would love as much control over their population as Russia exerts on theirs.
Which fits their narrative, when in reality NPR only receives around 5% of government funding. They don't like NPR because they aren't easily able to be bought due to being largely crowd funded and won't immediately parrot their talking points. They would love a state funded media company that parroted their talking points which Fox News comfortably does.
If American conservatives actually believed the their talking points then yes they would be vehemently anti-Russian, but they don't. They're only pro-power which the Russian government has figured out within their borders.
They don't like not their government to control things.
They’re probably just not getting a piece of all that laundered money from the US defense contractors
Ever since Trump they've taken a strange faux "anti-interventionism" isolationist perspective. This is why they have pulled back from Afghanistan, tried to ease tensions with Russia and generally focused on their "American jobs" rhetoric. It is obviously not applied consistently, like anything in the United States since the preamble to the declaration of independence saying "We hold this truths to be self evident that all men are created equal", but this is somewhat consistent with their newer Dovish and isolationist insistence of avoiding getting tangled into conflicts abroad. Ironically for all his racist base and his constant hawkish and white supremacist rhetoric, Trump is one of the few modern Presidents to not have started any significant military intervention abroad. They have however also done a heck of a job making life as a minority in the USA way worse and wasted a ton of potential with the trade war on China and also the atrocity of giving moral/covert support to fascists abroad.
Because they think it's a stupid proxy war that doesn't serve the US (because it strengthens BRICS which hurts the Petro Dollar) and that US support for Ukraine is a ploy to ensure that supposed US funded biolabs (that are pretty much confirmed to exist, afaik) aren't uncovered, because Joe and Hunter Biden are likely to be involved in them via the company Metabiota.
I'm as irritated as everyone else because it's usually not the Republicans to be the sane ones but it seems the Democrats are even more corrupt nowadays. The FBI is actively trying to suppress evidence of bribery of a sitting President and it's even denying answering Congress (or Senate? Not 100% sure which one, I'm not an American) inquiries.
The world has gone mad.
Wow. Everything you just said was wrong. This war has empowered NATO and the US more than every action taken by the US in the last 20 years combined. The biolabs theory is a joke as is the idea that a republican FBI director appointed by Trump would protect Biden. I always hear about how non Americans have a better perspective on US news, but deluded misinfo like this makes me believe that idea is bullshit.
There's been lots of mainstream reporting on the corruption allegations and the Senate/Congress hearing where the FBI chief kept on repeating the same evasive non-answers I mentioned were livestreamed. Can provide some sources once I'm back at home, though, if requested.
I'm usually not in a debating mood when people just start calling me a liar though. I'm not even in favor of republicans/centrists and I consider myself an anarchist more than anything else so I'm not really into partisanship here. 🤷♂️
I'm perfectly fine with people having different opinions and arriving at different conclusions but just calling me a liar when I can back up my claims is no good style.
Key concept: ignore allegations and only follow convictions. Then you’ll see most accusations are bullshit/projection from those committing the crimes. Hint: nearly all true convictions/guilty pleas are from the R side.
I never said you were a liar. I just said you were wrong.
This is your brain on lead dust.
It hurts the petro dollar? Oh no!
Republicans and Democrats are both part of a disfunction machine.
And alot of people are naive to how raw and evil life can be.
I lean left more than right but I don't want to support either side. It's all power games and greed... Just look at BLM (the organization not the idea) and maga. They are great examples. Both corrupted organizations.
We shouldn't be picking sides anymore... We should be living to our independent potential but we never will because both sides take soul as a trade for an idea of false security in a world where no man or organization can control universal law but they keep killing to try to.