I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Seems like everyone who is "for" letting threads stay can be summed up by "why would I want to intentionally separate this from a corporate entity when they'll just get my data anyway" Like that's a fucking valid argument.

Oppose corpos at all fronts, it doesn't matter if they'll get you anyway. If that's your take, then if your country ever gets invaded, I expect you to bend over and invite the enemy inside.

[–] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand. Facebook can get data from an open system whenever they feel like it.

[–] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fetch authorization may be able to prevent that.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean there are ways around that (i.e. activitypub proxy) however I think the key point to remember is that by defederating you are saying no and not giving consent. If somebody decides to spin up an instance of activitypub proxy to go around that, it's a very different situation than choosing to federate.

That's the important key when you don't give them consent and they barge in anyway it changes the dynamic, and makes them look bad, to all but the most brainwashed chuds. However when you let them in that won't happen, it's just on you (you being instance owner who chose to federate).

So the "we should federate and give them consent because they're going to take the data anyway" argument is a really bad argument because it devilifies them in that situation, because they were given consent to do it by federating, but weren't given consent when they set up instances of activitypub proxy to skirt the block.

I know the majority of people making this argument aren't even going to read this response, and I'm sure that a good amount of them are just astroturfers (there's already threads astroturfing elsewhere online, it wouldn't be surprising to me to find it in the biggest Lemmy instance out of all of them).

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

is that by defederating you are saying no and not giving consent

It's okay, I just post I DO NOT CONSENT on Facebook periodically and then a magic elf pops up and wags his finger at Zuck.

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