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I have a USB-C hub that has an NVMe slot built in and offers USB-PD power passthrough. My intention had been to use that hub to dual boot Windows from a 2TB NVMe so I could run native Gamepass and Genshin Impact on my Steam Deck, while keeping the majority of that drive formatted to share games between SteamOS and Windows, but it seems that any time the device changes power states the NVMe drive is disconnected and reconnected as part of the process.

This is problematic enough when I start Windows from the NVMe SSD in the enclosure connected to power, things work fine until the Steam Deck reaches full charge and the USB-PD is renegotiated so as to run things from the charger rather than continually topping up the battery. Windows dies immediately because the disk briefly goes away and comes right back. So fine, I just don't start my Deck with the hub connected unless the Steam Deck is fully topped off and problem solved?

That's all fine and well, but it becomes unbearable when I use my fancy 120w charging brick that offers multiple USB ports to power/charge multiple devices which charger renegotiates every device plugged in whenever any device is added, removed, or changes power states. If my Kindle Fire hits full charge while I'm playing on my deck, the connection to the NVMe storage is killed and anything with files open from the drive takes a dump. This happens in Windows and in SteamOS.

I've used the same NVMe drive in several different external enclosures hooked up via USB-A, with several different USB chargers (all 65w or higher,) all through the same hub that has the NVMe slot built in, through a fancier Lenovo hub, and a through a cheap $20 number from Amazon; all of the hubs have USB-PD passthrough and no matter what the setup it seems like no drive will stay connected in any arrangement if the power delivery situation changes in any way.

The question then is this: What is responsible for this behavior?

Is the Steam Deck uniquely unable to keep data connections open while power delivery is renegotiated, are all 3 of the hubs I have botching things and another hub would allow this behavior I desire, or is this normal for the USB spec and it's just not possible to have a reliable data connection going during a USB-PD state change? I've been unable to find any answers searching the Internet, so if you've got an authoritative source on the answer to my question, I'd love to see it and know if I should just give up on my dream or if there's a solution somewhere.

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[–] DarthYoshiBoy@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I have zero issues with the external drive if it's connected directly, but for the fact that it takes up the USB port so I can't charge while I'm using the drive and that makes using it for Windows dual boot a non-starter since Windows "power management" is a complete joke and the battery life isn't enough to do any serious gaming.

But if I don't mind only getting a couple of hours of runtime for games when in Windows, direct connecting the drive via USB-C and an enclosure is the only setup that seems to work. As soon as I want to get some power in the mix, it's nothing but failures all around.