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[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, I'm confident about what I said. Exposure therapy is one part of CBT.

I did CBT for PTSD and death anxiety, the latter involving large bits of exposure therapy.

https://www.psychologytools.com/professional/techniques/exposure/

Do you have any evidence about men having issues with this sort of therapy or is that a personal observation?

Edit: honestly it sounds like you had a bad therapist experinece and that therapist has no idea what CBT is (and sorry to say, but neither do you particularly)

Edit: had to add the passive aggressive smiley :)

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol funny how we seem to be carrying on different conversations in different threads. Anyway..

So first, sorry if the smilies come off as passive aggressive. I just talk like that because I'm emotive, and it helps to convey a cordial attitude on an increasingly hostile internet. ^_^

Second, basic disclaimer, not a psychologist, sooo...

When I see papers like this, I'm inclined to believe CBT and exposure therapy are different techniques, if they're being compared as such. But of course, the same practitioner can use different techniques and tools with the same patient.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3347982/

But hey, if I'm wrong and this source is wrong, cool. I'm happy to learn something. To be frank, semantics don't super interest me though.

So about men in therapy, my evidence is both personal experience, and secondhand reports from psychology professionals I don't know personally, and isn't gonna be revolutionary and mind-blowing.

I feel like my therapy experience between two or three therapists was...ok. But I very often felt misunderstood, and like there was a fundamental misunderstanding as to what I was on about at the root of the whole thing.

So, afformentioned Dr. K has a good video about this (YouTube link, dunno how to share as Newpipe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf8bt6fGQyA

Found a thoughtful blog here that resonates as to the reasoning. I think he's making sense. https://www.saltcitycounseling.com/post/why-do-men-do-so-poorly-in-therapy

And I can't find the particular episode, but these fine folks discuss it sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/@itsnotjustinyourhead/

It's an unpopular opinion, but people in general, even psychologists, either see no real reason to particularly understand men, or worse and more rarely, actively find them repugnant.

Hope this helps.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I didn't read the rest but that study looks st CT vs Exposure, which both fall within CBT.

This is from another paper

Most notably, exposure therapy (“exposure” or “exposure and response prevention”) is the key intervention strategy through which CBT improves outcomes for people with anxiety.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9161762/

I think that study echos who you have been saying, since it mentions that many CBT practioners may avoid exposure therapy and use less effective methods.