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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There's 19,000 pizza huts, but most all of them are franchises. It's not "pizza hut" firing drivers over this. It's franchise owners. Also, if you were to do some napkin math, 19,000 (I know. Just california, but that would hardly be fair to everyone else) pizza huts needing say....5 drivers each at 40 hours a week paid 20 means a cost of about 28 after insurance and such.... that'd be 95 thousand drivers....$106,400,000 a week...$5,532,800,000 a year.

Shit gets expensive.

But face it. Delivery drivers make a lot in tips. People have been willing to do it using their own vehicles for decades while they make super low minimum wages. Making $20/ hour plus the tips will have the delivery guy out doing everyone else at the restaurant, which means their pay will have to go to like $35/hour which means a stupid pizza is gonna cost $30. Let uber eats handle the deliveries.

[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What pizza hut has 5 full time drivers? There's only 1200 people affected by this and 560 locations so a little more than 2 per location. Now let's look at the cost those delivery apps charge 30%. So if 35% of sales are deliveries now theyre paying Uber ~110k to deliver their pizzas. 28$/hr is high closer to 23-25$/hr for overhead. That's roughly what the delivery drivers would have cost and now they're getting way shittier delivery service and people are much less likely to buy pizza from them. Sounds like a dumb move.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

5 too many? I just figured there'd be like 2 delivery people at any given time and trying to have 3 on Friday and Saturday night.

But as to Uber, that's the customers choice if they want to pay an arm and a leg to have pizza brought to their door. It won't much effect the pizza hut. Store dedicated delivery drivers are a thing of the past now. They've been outsourced.

[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand the business models of those food delivery apps. I used to own a restaurant and talked with many other restaurant owners at the time all those apps take 25-30% Uber was 30 the less known ones were 25%. This is outside of whatever the customer paid for the delivery. You also weren't allowed to change the prices for delivery to compensate. So it does affect the pizza hut.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

More than paying everyone on staff an extra $10 an hour, though? If the delivery guy is getting 20 an hour plus tips, the in house staff won't be happy with making $22/hr.

[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

States minimum wage is 16$/hr so it's not as big a difference. That's also not really an argument because then they could just leave and go to another pizza place that does do delivery if that made sense.

[–] yacht_boy@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pizza in Boston delivered by door dash is routinely right about $30 before tip. My credit card offers free door dash premium whatever it's called and I usually choose places offering a promo and tend to order early when there are also promos. That brings things down to the $20s. But it's generally about $30 with tip even doing all that. If I'm not paying attention it's easy to order a $45 pizza.

To be fair I don't eat from pizza Hut or Dominos or other chains. Those might be a few percent cheaper.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] yacht_boy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Chase sapphire reserve. $595 annual fee seems crazy at first but if you use the perks it pays for itself multiple times over.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's half my point, though. You choosing to pay $30 through door dash or Uber eats is your choice. The restaurant isn't charging way more for their pizzas because they have to pay everyone on staff a lot more. Delivery has been outsourced and so have the added costs that go along with it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you figuring places only deliver one pizza an hour?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No more than you're imagining each pizza hut only has one employee that cooks,preps, waits tables, takes orders, and delivers the pizza all on their own.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The ones around my place do.

They even have to be the bathroom attendants too but the cologne selection sucks.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

$20/hour is only part of employee compensation. It does not include benefits or taxes. Your employer pays a lot of taxes on your behalf.

Don’t even get me started on the money and time taken to recruit, hire, and train new employees.

Don’t misunderstand me. I support a higher minimum wage. I am a firm believer that minimum wage should be $25/hour and increases should be tied to inflation.

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Your employer pays a lot of taxes on your behalf.

That’s money they would have paid you anyway, and you would have to pay in taxes. Your employer is not out any extra cash, they’re just saving you the trouble.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Don’t even get me started on the money and time taken to recruit, hire, and train new employees.

For delivery drivers?

Know how to drive? If not, next. Here's the pizza. Put it on a flat surface in the vehicle, don't throw or flip it. Use Google maps to get to the house. Hand it to the customer. Come back. Done.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Delivery guys should always outdo nearly everyone else at pizza joint, you seem to lack a necessary depth of knowledge and experience to make your conclusions.