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Embrace, Extend, Enforce (ƎƎƎ): A practical Strategy against potentially abusive Instances like Meta’s Threads (fungiverse.wordpress.com)

submitted 8 months ago by blue_berry@lemmy.ca to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/12225991

TL;DR: The common view on Meta’s Threads is that it will be either all good or all bad, leading to oversimplified and at the end contra productive propositions like the Fedipact. But in reality, it’s behaviour will most likely change dynamically over time, and therefore, to prevent us getting in a position, in which Threads can actually perform EEE on us, we need to adapt a dynamic strategy as well.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 54 points 8 months ago

Why the hell would anyone (particularly fediverse users) give Facebook the benefit of the doubt? I genuinely can't understand it.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 months ago

So Twitter is dying, we all know that.

Former Twitter users have a few options on where to go next. Ideally Mastodon/Fediverse. Blue Sky possibly. Likely Threads.

Users who go to Threads or Blue Sky will just make it Twitter 2, specifically Twitter from before Elon which I'll be honest wasn't a particularly great Twitter to begin with. (That isn't to say the Fediverse is immune from the same fate, it just has some better protections against it.)

So option 1, Fediverse says "Fuck Threads", Twitter 2 is born and it's shitty for them. Fediverse gets a few new users, but mostly the Fediverse wonders why "everyone" is on Threads.

Option 2, Fediverse keeps an open dialogue with Threads. Threads users are more aware of the Fediverse. More Threads users actually migrate to the Fediverse. The Fediverse gets a wider range of users. If (when?) the Fediverse has to completely cut off Threads, the Fediverse will at least have more users, some of which will remain.

Another open question, does the Fediverse want former Twitter/Threads users?

Yes. More users, more thoughts, more opinions, more diversity, a better Fediverse. That isn't to say I want shitheads. We can and should still ban shitheads.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

You sound so innocent it's almost cute. Option 2 will never happen because people are already aware the Fediverse exists and that still doesn't make it for them, what the want is the closed walled gardens, when (not if) the time comes to cut off Threads they'll just return to their posting there. With Threads closed off from the Fediverse, there is no incentive for them to keep their activity here.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago

I would argue that most people don't know about the Fediverse.

The Fediverse has maybe a few million users, depending how you count it.

Threads has 100s of million users. Even if only ½% of those move to the Fediverse, that's still a huge win.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

Threads has 100s of million users. Even if only ½% of those move to the Fediverse, that's still a huge win.

Gonna start paying mods, admins, and instance runners? That is huge amount of extra work that they would need to put in. Slow growth is sustainable, rapid growth is very risky to platform viability.