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At the end of October, the Bundeswehr said it counted 181,383 soldiers in its ranks — that's still some distance from the target of 203,000 that the German military hopes to reach by 2025. This has given rise to concern in times of Russia's war against Ukraine, which has once again reminded Germans how quickly conflicts can erupt in Europe.

Since taking office at the beginning of 2023, Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has been thinking about ways to make the Bundeswehr more attractive as a career. He said he has received 65 concrete proposals from his ministry on recruitment and reforming training methods.

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[–] olizet@lemmy.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Won't happen. We don't have the infrastructure. Or weapons. Or trainers.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Infrastructure can be developed, weapons can be built, trainers can be taught (or borrowed, probably). It's a speed bump, not a roadblock.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Germany has currently a 80 billion euro hole in its budget. It does not even has the money to pay for the existing situation.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

Even the extra budget (Sondervermögen) of 100 million € is not nearly enough to do this. Suren technically it is possible, but it would require so much money, that it is highly unlikely, that we would see the parliament in unison here. Currently the Bundeswehr cannot handle millions of conscriptions.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think infrastructure would be the limiting factor. Looks like Germany is 20k short of their target.

Denmark, for instance, still has compulsory service. However, it is only enacted if they have fewer volunteers than their target, and will only compel participation up to the limit. Denmark has not needed to compel anyone to join in quite a long time, fortunately.

That said, under a similar model, Germany would only need to add 20,000. Likely less per year depending on the commitment term. Eg 10k/year if they are conscripted for 2 years. Also assuming that volunteer attrition and signups offset each other.

the bigger issue is about the moral justification of forcing someone into military service in the 21st century.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago

That's not how it works in Germany. You can't just pull in the small number of men you need to fill up your quota. That violates the Wehrgerechtigkeit and is the biggest reason conscription was frozen in the first place.