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So, if someone was to make the claim that in the episode “Patterns of Force”, John Gill was objectively right to introduce the planet Ekos to the fascist thought modelled on Nazi Germany because National Socialism is, as he theorized, the most efficient form of government, and the fact that the Zeons ended up persecuted and were to be victims of genocide is not only acceptable, but right and good considering who they were allegory for, that would be a welcome opinion in your community?
There’s always one that has to take things to the extreme in a pathetic attempt try and prove a point. 99% of people wouldn’t dream of posting the kind of stuff you just did to in an attempt to be what you obviously consider clever.
It should also not go unnoticed that this kind of pro-Nazi post was made here and not in my community. Please stay here.
You didn’t answer the question.
A welcome opinion? All opinions are welcome. I personally don’t agree with what you said but I don’t have to. That’s the beauty of an opinion. It’s not fact, it’s an opinion. And we all know what they say about opinions.
That’s pretty wack.
I will say right here and now, without hesitation or equivocation, anyone engaging in bigotry in this community will have their posts comments/removed, and they will very likely be banned.
No one is going to be banned for their opinion that any particular iteration of Star Trek, new or old, isn’t very good though. That would be silly.
I’d like to believe you but the modlog doesn’t support your claim. Posts have been removed today for no other reason than they are criticising aspects of an episode or show. That’s the beauty of Lemmy. Mods actions are public record unlike Reddit.
I didn't say posts wouldn't be removed, I said no one was going to be banned.
There are still community guidelines which need to be met, including a requirement that criticism be constructive. It's literally Rule #1 on the sidebar. Just dashing off some spicy take and not elaborating further doesn't clear that low bar, but for people for whom that's the sort of communication that they're looking for, it sounds as though your community would be right up their alley.
Be Constructive is too subjective to be the number one rule.
Discovery is terrible because it is too far removed from Gene’s vision.
To me that’s a valid point and constructive because it gives a reason I think it’s terrible. But to you it might not be however that doesn’t mean it should be removed. That’s what the up and down votes are for. Let the community decide instead of censoring people.
It isn’t very Starfleet of you.
We teach children the basics of critique in junior high English classes. Or at least I assume they still do; it's been a grip.
That's not criticism, that's a thought terminating cliché which leaves no room for discussion of the relative merits of Disco because of some nebulous ideas you're assuming a dead man had.
Do you similarly believe that "The Undiscovered Country" is terrible? William Shatner has claimed that Roddenberry saw the film two days before his passing, and after telling everyone it was good went home and phoned his lawyer, demanding that they remove many of the movie's more militaristic elements.
According to Marina Sirtis, Gene Roddenberry would have hated DS9, and said "No" when the idea was presented to him. Rick Berman has disputed that, but Berman's accounts of how much Roddenberry was aware of even the initial pitch and character sketches have varied considerably over the years.
Is it particularly Starfleet of you to complain about things being "woke" as I see you did in another comment?
Infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Disco is simply another combination of the elements that make Trek. It doesn't have to be to anyone's particular tastes.
Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
Just gonna go ahead and block you now.