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[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You didn’t answer the question.

[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A welcome opinion? All opinions are welcome. I personally don’t agree with what you said but I don’t have to. That’s the beauty of an opinion. It’s not fact, it’s an opinion. And we all know what they say about opinions.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That’s pretty wack.

I will say right here and now, without hesitation or equivocation, anyone engaging in bigotry in this community will have their posts comments/removed, and they will very likely be banned.

No one is going to be banned for their opinion that any particular iteration of Star Trek, new or old, isn’t very good though. That would be silly.

[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d like to believe you but the modlog doesn’t support your claim. Posts have been removed today for no other reason than they are criticising aspects of an episode or show. That’s the beauty of Lemmy. Mods actions are public record unlike Reddit.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say posts wouldn't be removed, I said no one was going to be banned.

There are still community guidelines which need to be met, including a requirement that criticism be constructive. It's literally Rule #1 on the sidebar. Just dashing off some spicy take and not elaborating further doesn't clear that low bar, but for people for whom that's the sort of communication that they're looking for, it sounds as though your community would be right up their alley.

[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be Constructive is too subjective to be the number one rule.

Discovery is terrible because it is too far removed from Gene’s vision.

To me that’s a valid point and constructive because it gives a reason I think it’s terrible. But to you it might not be however that doesn’t mean it should be removed. That’s what the up and down votes are for. Let the community decide instead of censoring people.

It isn’t very Starfleet of you.

Be Constructive is too subjective to be the number one rule.

We teach children the basics of critique in junior high English classes. Or at least I assume they still do; it's been a grip.

Discovery is terrible because it is too far removed from Gene’s vision.

To me that’s a valid point and constructive because it gives a reason I think it’s terrible.

That's not criticism, that's a thought terminating cliché which leaves no room for discussion of the relative merits of Disco because of some nebulous ideas you're assuming a dead man had.

Do you similarly believe that "The Undiscovered Country" is terrible? William Shatner has claimed that Roddenberry saw the film two days before his passing, and after telling everyone it was good went home and phoned his lawyer, demanding that they remove many of the movie's more militaristic elements.

According to Marina Sirtis, Gene Roddenberry would have hated DS9, and said "No" when the idea was presented to him. Rick Berman has disputed that, but Berman's accounts of how much Roddenberry was aware of even the initial pitch and character sketches have varied considerably over the years.

It isn’t very Starfleet of you.

Is it particularly Starfleet of you to complain about things being "woke" as I see you did in another comment?

Infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Disco is simply another combination of the elements that make Trek. It doesn't have to be to anyone's particular tastes.

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