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I'm disappointed with Third Wave Water (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago by asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world to c/coffee@lemmy.world
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Not with their end product - the powder itself is excellent. But every little packet is plastic, and doesn't have to be. The world has such a serious problem with plastics, and for a lot of products it's kind of necessary, but this is not one of them.

Restaurants have had the same size single serving packets for sugar, salt, and pepper for decades now and those are paper, which is much more environmentally friendly. It's even better for usability! With paper, I don't need to go find my scissors like I do for TWW's plastic packets.

I asked TWW if they would consider using paper instead, but got a generic reply that they'll bring it up, but evidently nothing has been done about this.

Is anyone else as disappointed as I am with their use of plastic packets? I care a lot about having clean water for my coffee, and I care just as much about not polluting the rest of the world because of it.

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[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I agree they should do better.

Have you considered taking your preferred water recipe of theirs and making it yourself? Its considerably cheaper and no more individual packets.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I saw some discussion on Reddit that implied that would be very hard or very different. If I recall correctly:

  1. The ingredients aren't the same
  2. The way TWW mixes things means you get a reliable, even distribution of the ingredients. Mixing at home would be very hard to do at gallon sizes.
  3. Gallon is too large for me - I prefer liter, and TWW offers liter sized packets. That makes it even more difficult for me to get a correct ingredient distribution.

But again, I might be misremembering something.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Getting it exactly the same would be hard, getting it close enough is not that hard. There isnt some magic ingredients in third wave to massively improve solubility, just Magnesium Sulfate, Calcium Citrate, and Sodium Chloride in classic for example. Any decent hand mixer (or electric milk frother) ran for a minute or two is going to spread the ingredients around plenty.

I would recommend getting some testing strips to compare a DIY vs. the ready done packets to at least confirm the alkalinity and pH is a close match, then go by taste for the Epsom salts starting from the baseline from an existing guide. Just scale the recipe for the size you want to make, you do not have to stick to a gallon, its also not a magical prerequisite for making it.

Its not for everyone as Third Wave sure is convenient but it is significantly cheaper if you use a lot of 3rd wave.

Have you seen Kyles video on how to make your own? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGYrEiubq2U