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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Most tribes didn't have a concept of land ownership, so they wouldn't say "that we own".

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most tribes today are Christian and we still hate them

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I'm assuming by "we" you mean the US Government. Is that right?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Cherokee, famously, were perfectly happy to leave Georgia and Florida on the grounds that "Hey its not like we really recognize a claim to the land you guys can just have it" and never once contested the confiscation of land, much less by taking it all the way to the Supreme Court and winning an unenforceable injunction against their forced removal.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Each tribe was/is an independent nation, with their own ideals, beliefs, social structures, etc.. There's a reason why I said "most" and not "all".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The differences are heavily overstated, primarily as a means of dismissing native people as "primitive" and necessarily subservient to the arriving colonists. The main difference with the Cherokee was simply geographic. They lived in land not heavily settled until later in the colonization process and had more time to acclimate to western legal norms. It didn't save them, but it gave them these neat little anecdotes that we can pretend made them "some of the good ones".

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Well I hope it was clear that I wasn't even remotely implying they/we are primitive and should be subservient. I am Cherokee, and Choctaw. My great grandmother, and great grandfather are on the final rolls of the Dawes Act.