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[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Be kind to these people when they come to seek asylum in your state. People can change and learn from their mistakes (in the case that they voted these reps in, they might not even regret it but honey and vinegar right?)

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

46% of Texans voted for Biden. Before the election, there were (wishful) talks of Texas becoming purple. It's much more blue than Florida, for example. But, the gerrymandering is pretty egregious.

Here's one district that contains black neighborhoods in both San Antonio and Austin, which are about 100 miles apart.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is so fucking terrible. How is this democratic.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Just another example of why we need district lines to be assigned by an explicit mathematical process rather than politicians deciding what will best let them retain power.

Least split line is an example of an attempt at that (basically if you have an even number of districts to split into, draw the shortest line across the region that splits the population into an even number of people on each side and put half the districts on each side. If odd, then do almost the same, except instead of an even split, one side gets the extra "share" of people and the extra district to split into. Repeat the process for each piece until you have one district on each side of the line.

For example, if a state has 5 seats, then draw the shortest line that puts 60% of the population on one side and 40% on the other (a 3:2 ratio). Then for the 40% side, draw the shortest line across it that splits the population in half. For the 60% side, you draw the shortest line that produces a 2:1 split, then the shortest line across the 2 side that splits the population evenly. Each district now contains 20% of the population, all drawn without regard to or consideration of political affiliations or identity groups, and all generally pretty compact. Inconvenient if you want to ensure your party's continued power or create "majority minority" districts, but then those aren't the goals (and are actually antithetical to the goal of preventing gerrymandering).

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is the paradox of tolerance. You don't need to show kindness to those who would sooner spit on you for no greater reason than that they hate you for being born or the circumstances of your life.

People can change, but being given a second chance is a privilege and not a right. If you fuck up badly enough, no one is obligated to forgive you. Plenty of us make it through our whole lives without being fearful little shits who dedicate our votes to hurting others. I have no tolerance for those who can't manage that, and they're LUCKY to get a second chance, not guaranteed.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ah I was confused at first I was like you’re describing the solution to that paradox, but then I think your intended meaning clicked

It’s an interesting thought experiment until, like you mentioned, you consider tolerance is only for those who are themselves tolerant.

Either you play in this ball park or you don’t, simple as that

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Conservatives cannot "change and learn". If they could, they would not be conservatives. They may temporarily pretend to change when it benefits them. But, that should not be confused with actual change or growth.

Conservatives delight in the misery, oppression and death of others. It is who they are at their core. Be extremely careful dealing with them. They do not value the lives of others the way normal people do.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is so insanely short sighted but I guess user name checks out lol

[–] optissima@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is that short sighted? They've been doing this for 300 years.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

All of human history.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Lol so you're telling me in the last 300 years (and I have absolutely no idea where you're pulling that time frame from) not one single conservative has ever changed or learned from their mistakes. 100% of them are just pure evil and "delight in the misery, oppression, and death of others."

On top of that you're also saying these are core values of these people, meaning the same holds true for any current and future conservatives. They're all pure evil and utterly incapable of change or learning anything.... Permanently.

I not a fan at all of conservatives by and large but I know plenty level headed non-bat shit crazy conservatives and (to my knowledge) they do not hold a party any time people die or someone gets oppressed lol.

This doesn't sound the least bit strange to you?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope my blue state builds a fucking wall.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago

I am in NM sand Texas is currently building a wall on our border. I am unsure if they are lost, or are trying to keep people from fleeing their state.