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[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they're only a nation because that isn't their land other people lived there first.

That is true of every nation. Literally everyone lives on land that was occupied by some other tribe in the past. The really ironic thing about saying that the Palestinians were there "first" is that the UN used precisely that originalist doctrine to justify creating Israel for the Jews in the first place!

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So you understand then why Israel is fully to blame?

Everyone does live on some other tribes land. But Israel, America, Canada are different than British and Chinese history in that way.

This is modern day. Those things are still felt. Hell the Irish still feel how the British treated them.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice ignoring of the point that the Jewish were there first being the rational for creating Jewish settlements there to begin with.

For the inevitable downvoters, regardless of who is to blame it's important that those of us discussing this attempt to understand the point the other is making even if we disagree with it.

From what I see in this conversation there's one person putting their points across reasonably and there's another throwing whatever cards they have randomly at the board.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

Nice ignoring of the point that ~~the Jewish were there first being the rational for creating Jewish settlements there to begin with~~.

THERE'S A GENOCIDE HAPPENING BOB.

Nothing else fucking matters beyond that. Once that fucking stops we can play these games. Otherwise you're just pearl clutching and arguing semantics

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. How are Israel, Canada and America different from Britain and China? And how do the Irish fit into it?

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

WTF? Dude, time to go back to school and take some history courses. You literally made me laugh out loud.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'd love to hear what you have to say. Go on then.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one that made the strange claim and I'm not your history professor. But if I was, I think you'd be struggling on the midterm right now.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

Sure just say nothing cause you actually have no point to make.

Shut the fuck up. Come back with content or choke on em baby ❤️