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It wasn't originally constitutionally required, but presidents who served two terms have traditionally followed George Washington's example and gotten false teeth.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its a precedent that’s been in effect under dozens of prior administrations. You govern the country with the tools you’re given. Or you don’t.

It's a precedent because presidents take power--not use the power they were given--and then the courts eventually say, yeah, okay, we guess that the constitution doesn't really apply here after all. Then it's precedent for the next president to take even more power, and repeat. I give it the thumbs down because even though it means that a good president can use that power to accomplish good things, it means that a shitty president can use it to do enormous amounts of damage in a very, very short period of time. Supporting that kind of trash means that you're handing the tools of your own demise to the people that want to tear down democracy. You can support that if you want; I won't.

In point of fact, Obama's restraint did put constraints on Trump. It meant that he had to go to court multiple times over things, and he lost on a lot. Like his Muslim ban; remember that? If Obama had greatly expanded executive power in the same way that Trump did, then Trump would have had far, far fewer court challenges to act as speed bumps.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a precedent because presidents take power–not use the power they were given

Bush was given several literal blank checks during his two terms in office by a legislature that was more than happy to invest enormous power in the chief executive (so long as that executive was a Republican). The Patriot Act, the No Child Left Behind Act, the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003, the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2007, the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, and the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 were all on the books before Obama took office.

They each invested the Presidency with new powers via the national bureaucracy, enormous slush funds through which to shape economic activity, and regulatory authorities only vaguely defined by the legislature that the President's appointees could fine tune as they saw fit.

In point of fact, Obama’s restraint did put constraints on Trump. It meant that he had to go to court multiple times over things

Trump's trips to court were notable only in so far as they illustrated how toothless the modern judiciary is in the face of a Unitary Executive. Policies that failed to pass judicial muster were continued in defiance of court orders and over the objection of administrative bureaucracies - border wall funding and illegal incarceration of asylum seekers, kick-backs to private security firms and Homeland Security contractors, wildly illegal misuse of military assets in Iraq and Afghanistan and Eastern Europe and Latin America, leaking state secrets to foreign nationals, harassing and spying on minority groups and political opponents, using federal money for self-enrichment and as kick-backs to cronies, using federal money for campaigning in defiance of campaign finance laws - all ended up either being swept under the rug or continued under the incoming Biden Administration.

Obama did nothing to restrain Trump. In fact, Trump's team deliberately pushed the boundaries of what was already generously afforded them just to see how other branches would respond. And the response was, more often than not, to ratify his actions after the fact - either at the national level or via state policies in red states that sympathized with him.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Bush was given several literal blank checks during his two terms

And it was dumb then, too. Republicans--in general--are more authoritarian, and are happy to cede more power to an executive. Dems then use the power when they take the executive branch. Which is stupid, because it allows Republicans to keep expanding the power of the executive.

all ended up either being swept under the rug or continued under the incoming Biden Administration.

...Which is literally part of my fucking point. A strong executive and weak legislative branch is bad, and using the power instead of getting rid of it means that someone that's malicious has more tools at their disposal.

It's fast and easy to break things. It takes a long time to fix things once they're broken. A strong executive can break things far, far faster than a strong executive can fix them.