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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If your input/control has a physical button, that immediately needs independent wiring

No it doesn't. It just needs a PCB and a microcontroller connected to a CANbus. And that's what we've had for decades.

another BoM item to build the car

I don't really understand this either. Like yes, it is, but if we're taking that approach, why not remove the door panels? And the trunk liner? And that pesky center console? Oh what's that, these are all valuable features of the car?

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Wiring/PCB header or connector/common data hub yes - but my point was that has to be thought out ahead, and cannot be modified afterwards in the same way touch screens can

BoM complexity and cross commonality is a challenge in manufacturing. It’s why we see all these ‘global platforms’ among automakers trying to build one unibody core subframe for all or most of their cars, adding different panels and roof assembly for an SUV or sedan respectively. Fewer parts to stock and build is a cost saving (for the manufacturer, don’t expect them to pass that saving along) - same with tactile controls.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

my point was that has to be thought out ahead

Of course it does. The entire vehicle does. They don't just not make the entire vehicle because they have to think about it. They think very hard about these things.

and cannot be modified afterwards in the same way touch screens can

There's no reason you should have to modify anything. It doesn't matter how you modify touchscreen controls, they will always be inferior to physical buttons and dials.

BoM complexity and cross commonality is a challenge in manufacturing.

So make them all use the same controls? You don't need different climate controls or shifter controls or wiper controls for different vehicles. Many OEMs have standard controls across their entire lineup already.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

Wiring/PCB header or connector/common data hub yes - but my point was that has to be thought out ahead, and cannot be modified afterwards in the same way touch screens can

BoM complexity and cross commonality is a challenge in manufacturing. It’s why we see all these ‘global platforms’ among automakers trying to build one unibody core subframe for all or most of their cars, adding different panels and roof assembly for an SUV or sedan respectively. Fewer parts to stock and build is a cost saving (for the manufacturer, don’t expect them to pass that saving along) - same with tactile controls.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The (capacitive) turn signal buttons are on the steering wheel, not the touch screen. You’re thinking of the mirrors, wipers, etc., which is not what this article is about.

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