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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 140 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

So let's say we let him run to avoid a violent backlash.

What happens if he loses? We let him overturn the election to avoid another violent backlash?

All we're doing is proving to the fascists that we will kowtow to them if they are angry and violent enough. If we want to remain a free-ish country we're going to have to piss them off at some point by doing the right thing, and we'll need to deal with the fallout.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And if he wins the fascists will take that as endorsement. Whatever they would have done via backlash will become the norm since their present supports it.

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I really think people either forgot or still don't understand just how close the insurrection was to succeeding. Change one part of Mike Pence's story and we'd be in a whole different -- and much darker -- timeline. There's plenty of evidence that suggests a different outcome if a similar coup is attempted this time. The law is on our side, and so are states' rights, we need to enforce them.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 21 points 10 months ago

By 'deal with the fallout', of course you mean apply the law to criminals. Arrest them, charge them, send them to court, let them be convicted, and serve their sentences. Justice delayed is justice denied.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I personally can’t wait. All the 2nd Amendment idiots trying to take on the police and military?

It’d be glorious.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I personally can’t wait. All the 2nd Amendment idiots trying to take on the police and military?

Well, I've got some news for you.

House Republicans All Vote Against Neo-Nazi Probe of Military, Police

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The call is coming from inside the house

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many police and military do you think are 2nd amendment idiots?

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Being a traitor and being police/military is not the same. I'm suspicious of police AF but betraying your country is a bigger leap than liking guns.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Betraying my country? I'm saving it from this woke mind virus trying to overthrow the people's will! /s

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Through a lot of the recent bullshit, the police were shaking hands with Proud Boys and turning their heads to miss crimes committed by them. Multiple police forces were entirely dismantled and rebuilt because there were zero salvageable members of them. And that only happened when their behavior got too much national attention.

The "boys club" that is the police takes the above and makes it worse. For most cops, if 1/3 of their force is all doing something, they're going along with it out of fear of rejection or even fear of reprisal.