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New York governor pushes for paid medical leave during pregnancy (apnews.com)
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Pregnant people in New York would have 40 hours of paid leave to attend prenatal medical appointments under a new proposal by Gov. Kathy Hochul after the state’s legislative session kicked off this week.

The Democrat’s plan to expand the state’s paid family leave policy, which would need to be approved by the state Legislature, aims to expand access to high-quality prenatal care and prevent maternal and infant deaths in New York, an issue that especially affects low-income and minority communities.

The U.S. infant mortality rate, a measure of how many babies die before they reach their first birthday, is worse than other high-income countries, which experts have attributed to poverty, inadequate prenatal care and other possibilities. The U.S. rate rose 3% in 2022 — the largest increase in two decades, according to a 2023 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

malthusianism is next to eugenics

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. You honestly think we can keep growing to eternity?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>You honestly think we can keep growing to eternity

I didn't say that

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don’t say you did. Just following your logic. And you agree we cannot grow forever. So when should we stop? You think we can’t stop now without dire consequences. But some future generation has to. So, who gets to face the consequences that you want to avoid for yourself?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>You think we can’t stop now without dire consequences

I didn't say that

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Population decline is now a similar place that climate change was in the 1970’s. We know what’s going on and it’s not too serious yet, but some of us are sounding an alarm. do we have the foresight to address it while it’s easy or are we going to wait until it’s critical/irreversible?

That seems to be what you are saying.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago

literally putting words in my mouth. what I'm saying is that malthusianism is next to eugenics.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>some future generation has to

not necessarily

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why not?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago

technological advanced are unpredictable. we could develop something that brings about effectively the end of scarcity.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>who gets to face the consequences that you want to avoid for yourself?

you're making assumptions

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m all ears

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

all I want to avoid is eugenics. I don't know what vague"consequences"you're referencing.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’m not advocating eugenics. Where did I say only certain people should reproduce and others shouldn’t? Who is putting words into people’s mouths now? I’m done with you.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'm pointing out that malthusianism is next to eugenics.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago

>I’m done with you.

thank God

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>Just following your logic.

wrong

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to explain. You say population decline (something which has yet to start) is a major problem that needs reversed, correct? So we need to grow faster? But you admit we can’t grow forever. So when should we stop growing?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>you admit we can’t grow forever.

I never said that.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So which is it. You said the same thing when I asked if we can keep growing forever.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I suspended judgement on both those claims

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 10 months ago

>You say population decline (something which has yet to start) is a major problem

I didn't say that at all.