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Rights advocates in the United States are urging President Joe Biden to end his administration’s “complicity” in Israeli rights abuses after key members of Israel’s government backed the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza.

Far-right Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich said this week that Israel should “encourage emigration” from the coastal enclave, home to an estimated 2.3 million Palestinians.

“If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after [the war ends] will be totally different,” Smotrich said on Sunday, calling for the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians.

A day later, Ben-Gvir, who oversees national security, made a similar appeal, saying it was “a correct, just, moral and humane solution”, Israeli media outlets reported.

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[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I have no illusions as to him being a good president. But the Israel issue is significant enough that he's worth it. And literally just saying he would stop interfering in it makes him a MAJOR upgrade over the current genocider-in-chief.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Stop interfering = let the genocide continue. So no I wouldn't call it a major upgrade even on this issue. It's going from being the guy cheering for the bully to one silently standing by as he stomps on a defenceless victim's head.

And for every other issue Trump is anywhere from embarrassingly stupid to outright scary. Much worse than Biden.

The problem is the two party system, because both of these options are ultimately fucking dog shit.

[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am perfectly fine with my country doing nothing more than providing military support only as requested by the rest of the UN, and otherwise doing nothing. Ideally that would be America's role in every armed conflict. The reason they're even able to do a genocide is having American backup and weapons. End that and the genocide is over. Iran could flatten Israel in a day if Israel didn't have the threat of the US military behind them.

There is no other issue. America is helping to commit a genocide. Tax rates, or hell even attempted coups, mean nothing in comparison.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah fair enough. I feel like they could still do a lot of damage if the US ended support, but I totally get your perspective and kind of agree actually.

America sliding into fascism is not quite worth it for me though, especially because I don't trust Trump to remain consistent on this issue either. Biden needs to be forcefully pushed to change tack, I guess by the poll numbers and internal protests

[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

There is nothing we can do to make Biden stop supporting genocide other than vote him out. Yeah trump might also do it, but he didn't the first time. And certainly the guy who might is better than the guy who definitely will.

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