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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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The greatest irony of these high speed chases is they’re consistently the second highest cause of on the job deaths for police officers, every year.
They’re often dangerous to the public at large, the ones being chased, and the cops themselves. And yet LEOs bellyache about ‘no-chase’ policies until they get watered down.
And the fact that construction, transportation/material moving, and farm/fish/forestry workers all have fatal work injury rates higher than law enforcement.
Want more evidence cops are pussies? You know those viral videos where cops throw themselves to the ground because they’re dying of fentanyl exposure and 5 guys stick him with narcan?
It’s all fake. They’re literally pretending. That’s not even how fentanyl exposure works.
500 cops with body armor and long rifles were too scared to challenge one guy with a pistol in Uvalde. They can be beaten.
Just remember, 1/40~ deaths of all firearm deaths in the USA (including suicide) are from cops. They literally shoot and kill around 1,000 us citizens every single year.
Can’t even make them fill out a single page form to report a crime to a central federal database. Cause you know, maybe maintaining crime statistics could be useful?
Which one are you referring to as the second highest cause of death just automobile accidents?
Key point there. COVID and other likely preventable deaths from illness that may/not be job related, do cause a sizable number. But that’s not during the job in the same way the Department of Labor counts ‘on the job’ injuries, unless directly linked like asbestos or radiation exposure.
But I was more asking is crashes what you were referring to?