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[–] eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (23 children)

Reminder that a "living wage", and what most servers make, is at least 3x minimum wage, so tipping is still going to be required.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Why? I hope this is just the first step toward the end of tipping culture. Why should servers be held out as a special category deserving higher pay? They deserve a decent wage at least minimum, just like everyone else. If businesses need to pay them more to attract employees, then that’s the free market at work. That’s more predictable, transparent, honest toward all of the business, the employee, and the customer

[–] eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Servers shouldn't be special, obviously. The obligatory tipping system we have is an complete dumpster fire. But this is taking employees who currently make $30/hr in tips and changing their minimum wage from $2/hr to $7/hr. It's not going to change anything. How could it? Would you give up a $30/hr job to take a $7/hr job on principle? Unless you're independently wealthy, you couldn't even if you wanted to.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

But this is taking employees who currently make $30/hr in tips and changing their minimum wage from $2/hr to $7/hr. It’s not going to change anything.

Well at that point then the employers will need to raise how much they're offering the employees, or the employees will look for other work. Normal capitalistic market scenario.

Bottom line is for the employees to keep making the same kind of money, but having that be done out of the employer's pocket, and not the customer's pocket.

And if the employer refuses to give up some of their profits to the employee to do that, and instead just tries to raise the prices of their products to offset, then they'll find themselves going out of business right quick like, again, normal capitalistic market scenario.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Would you actually just put your head down and keep working there if that happened to you? Like...why?

Especially when Joe's Tavern down the road is starting people off at $40/hour! It's like the only place left in town after everyone quit and all the restaurants went under, so they got away with charging $18 a beer and $29 a burger! The owner must be making a killing...

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