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Ukrainian soldiers trained abroad express discontent: 'I repeatedly told them NATO manuals didn't apply' (www.lemonde.fr)
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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's so goofy ass that NATO thinks they could train an army on peer-to-peer war, something not seen by a NATO power since the Korean War. The US can't even beat an infinitely weaker enemy with complete control of the skies and drones piloted from the safety of Arizona, but they're the white saviours who are going to teach the Ukrainians how to use a gun.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you start getting high on your own supply.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

Even then it's so fundamentally absurd. The last time the enemy of a NATO power had a functioning plane was Vietnam and they're trying to explain how to fight against an enemy that more or less has air superiority. The only countries that should be advising them are Iraq and Afghanistan, and even then those militias seem quaint in the new era of small drones. What is a western veteran of those wars going to explain to them other than how to find the Burger King on base?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope they take no lessons and get even higher

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think that's exactly what is going to happen. We keep seeing articles like this always phrasing it as the "ungrateful Ukrainians dismissing superior NATO tactics" rather than admitting they have no clue what they're doing. Losing this war will be blamed 100% on Ukraine, they won't ever admit that their tactics were involved in the loss.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

sicko-intrigued ----Ungrateful brat Ukranians

Hardworking NATO strategists-----liberty-weeping

kelly Flak to basics.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ukrainians when the calipers are used on the Russians pigmask-off

Ukrainians when the calipers are turned back on themselves pigmask

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

I expect so as well, the impetus will be to spin this as all being the fault of Ukraine and to deflect blame from NATO, which means no actual lessons will be learned from any of this.

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 10 months ago

Tfw the air strike app starts glitching out.