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[โ€“] dudinax@programming.dev 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" is good advice for friends and family.

It's bad advice for salesmen, politicians, corporations, etc. They are more sophisticated than you and will take advantage of your willingness to extend trust after bad behavior.

[โ€“] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 4 points 10 months ago

I've been in a surprising number of hostile situations professionally that defied any explanation that did not include both malice and stupidity :D

[โ€“] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's bad advice for salesmen, politicians, corporations, etc.

I dunno. It's pretty easy to attribute their misdeeds to malice.

Or at least to greed and malicious indifference to your concerns.

[โ€“] jcg@halubilo.social 16 points 10 months ago

I think that's what they were saying. For those, it is likely indeed malice. For friends and family, it's likely just stupidity or ignorance.

[โ€“] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Doing bad things ("evildoing" if we want to express it in a morally absolutist way) is generally not for the pleasure of it, but it's simply doing what's good for oneself with little or no limits (if one can get away with it) on how bad the consequences for others are of one's personal upside maximization actions.

Whilst "malice" is per the dictionary a specific kind of doing bad things were one actually wants to harm or hurt others, hence that saying with that word specifically can't be easilly turned around (especially as actual malice is pretty rare), if you use "calous selfishness" instead the reverse saying ("don't attribute to stupidity what can be explained by calous selfishness") is often true, especially when it comes to people intelligent enough to be able to figure out the broader consequences of their actions.