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Anyone use one of those Linux phones like pine phone or librem.

I was looking at a few months ago but settled on a deggooled phone. Are there user friendly distros for them?

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[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and I think the high price of it

I wouldn't call PPP expensive. It's a just more powerful version of PP for those developers (yes, for developers, it's written in bold on their website) who want a more powerful unit. Yes, you can buy a more powerful phone for this price, but it's not because Pine64 greed. They simply doesn't have as big production capacity as other rich companies. The more phones you produce, the cheaper price for unit, this is how it works.

low built quality

PP(P) have okay build quality. I have complains only about keyboard.

subsequent low number of developers trying to improve the software side

It's a community project, Pine does not develop the software at all. They only providing hardware and relies on community to build software for it. It's kinda unique business model, but it's the only way to make GNU/Linux phones popular. They are not Google, they can't invest billions of dollars to develop the software. Thanks to Pine64, developers (including me) can port and write their software for Linux on phones. I have both phones and I see how much the situation has improved. We are still far from Android, but it makes me happy to see progress in this direction.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am well aware, but the PPP included some expensive "premium" features like licensed gorrilla glas and so on, which do nothing for the developer experience and made the price unattractive for a impulse buy to tinker with it. If they can sell the Pinebook Pro for around 250€ they could have also made a Pinephone Pro for 300€, but it actually costs double that.

Compared to the original PinePhone the developer uptake of the PPP has been really slow and as a result the software support is severely lacking even now, more than a year after the initial availability.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am well aware, but the PPP included some expensive “premium” features like licensed gorrilla glas and so on, which do nothing for the developer experience

It's great when developers daily drive what they write since it's a community project and there is no quality control. I personally was happy when PPP was announced and bought it because I couldn't daily drive PP, the hardware is too outdated for me. I honestly would prefer even RK3566, its more powerful and less hungry. But users can still can buy PP.

Compared to the original PinePhone the developer uptake of the PPP has been really slow

PP is around since 2020. And it was in a similar state. Also initial GNU/Linux support were different. Especially camera.

And I also made a mistake in my first comment. I wanted to write that all issues are software issues. I'm so sorry.