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[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

FF is a perfectly good browser with as many features as any other.

Even has pioneered some of them like the picture-in-picture that lets you overlay videos.

Could you provide specifics on why you don't like It? Or what's "broken"?

[–] EvokerKing@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of things but especially that of developer tools. They are horrible and I often run into many things going wrong when using it such as elements not showing at all and weird versions of errors showing in the console. It also has issues with site compatibility from a development standpoint. Many commonly used Web standards (as shown by mozillas own documentation) are just not present on Firefox. I remember there being complaints over Microsoft teams or YouTube not working on Firefox. People blamed Microsoft and Google, but it was actually mozillas fault for not adding standard web elements and JavaScript functions.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the developer tools take, they are sometimes unresponsive and difficult to read or analyse, especially snapshots.

Now, I have to disagree about the web standards, all major current browsers are W3C compliant, and developing under those guidelines is an interchangeable operation between browsers.

But of course, this a market, and browsers will one-up one another for a higher market share. Google for example has been pushing forward almost a new set of guidelines for Chrome, which has a gigantic market share; and those, while widely used, are not the norm, they should be namespaces, we as developers are bound to have to deal with these edge cases unfortunately.

I understand where the frustration is coming from, Mozilla isn't a saint, but with the current state of browsers, you can't possibly say that Firefox is a bad choice, overall It does everything a modern browser is supposed to do.

I'd even say it's a better option now than It has ever been.

[–] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

But still why would I want to use it? Even if it's Google's fault that things don't work, things still don't work. I'm not going to use something worse because there might be "spyware" in chrome. Which by the way, is just them collecting data for themselves, not selling data like face book or tiktok does.