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“The president has been adamant that we need to restore Roe. It is unfathomable that women today wake up in a country with less rights than their ancestors had years ago,” Fulks said.

Biden has been poised to run on what has been described as the strongest abortion rights platform of any general election candidate as he and his allies look to notch a victory in the first presidential election since Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022.

Last month, Biden seized on a case in Texas, where a woman, Kate Cox, was denied an abortion despite the risk to her life posed by her pregnancy.

“No woman should be forced to go to court or flee her home state just to receive the health care she needs,” Biden said of the case. “But that is exactly what happened in Texas thanks to Republican elected officials, and it is simply outrageous. This should never happen in America, period.”

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[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And several of those Senators in that supermajority were against abortion rights. I can name them if you actually care.

Mate, I literally warned you against this. Two of those Senators were from god damned Arkansas, one from Indiana, and one from Louisiana. This was not the Democratic Party of the 2020s. Several of them voted for a federal ban on late-term abortions and bans for the use of any federal funding for abortions. Our good friend Joe Manchin was also in that majority.

Please though, do try again. You seemed very confident that this pro-abortion majority definitely existed, so I'll wait.

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago

Two things.

One: even removing those listed senators from the supermajority, that still leaves a majority.

Two: their original comment lamented that the Democrats never even held a vote when they had control with the intent of putting their votes on the record, so that voters would know who actually supports their rights.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Oooh!

You've got more than feelings right? and can demonstrate some kind of political understanding (far beyond ours) on how the Dems will codify abortion?

Cuz from what you've said so far you've only proved that the Dems can't, even with a supermajority. (But not a real one lol)

What's unsaid by you is that Dems would need a supermajority in both houses and that those Dems would also have to be pro-abortion right? If you show me your worth we can talk about that next.

Can you tell me, with your knowledge, how we'll get there? how that will go? How Bidens promise to "make it his top priority" in a year will work? I don't know much, but i feel like he should have started already. Can we focus on how i should believe him?

I think that will be very hard. Because he can't, or won't. What i mean by "won't" is "Won't do enough to make it happen." What they will do is have an excuse when they fail. An excuse just like yours.

But you're here to tell me this is different, right? Cuz to me it just seems like a cynical, open-ended promise to "try", from a party specializing in "sorry, we tried".

I don't understand why you're so proud of this argument in that case, one that provides more ammunition for those who believe the Democrats will never codify abortion.

Can you tell me why you're making it?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Because his argument has understanding of the situation, and isn't a pithy tantrum.

If you want abortion, you have to vote for it. There are primaries coming up. Go vote for every pro-choice Republican and Democrat you can find. Let me know if you elect 60 of them to the Senate and 218 to Congress. Then you'll absolutely get your codified abortion rights.

Or maybe your whining about Dems will fix the problem.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 10 months ago

Your big win is that for two months, during which Congress was scrambling to deal with a recession so bad we still feel its effects and Dems fought and lost a fight to get the public option in healthcare, they could have easily just codified the right to abortion. You're either a troll or an idiot. Either way, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And several of those Senators in that supermajority were against abortion right

Sounds like Democrats are shit bags too then and the whole "vote blue no matter who" won't actually solve anything.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why? Because expecting Democrats to serve the people who's votes they depend on is to tall an order? How fucking pathetic is that?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because you seem to prefer them