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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Trump couldn't pull of a genocied, he couldn't even build a damn wall. The president is not a dictator he can't singlehandedly do that, and no one's gonna vote for someone actively killing their family instead of someone who might be able to kill their family. Especially when that other person was president for four years and didn't kill their family. Be mad at it if you want but that's the votes you necessarily lose.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

It’s not Trump who actually does anything. It’s the long line of cruel ideologues and grifters he puts in his administration like Steven Miller, and the police-military complex they’ve built up like ICE. And of course the Trump admin can and would give Israel weapons and money as easily as Biden.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

None of that is gonna make those people vote for Biden though. No ones going to choose certain death over the unknown. Trump couldn't build a wall and failed setting up a South American coup. South American coups are like what the US does best. You lose those voters when you stand with Israel like Biden has. You can't 'but Trump' those people back to the polls.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Trump isn't in any way an unknown and he's made his 'policy' opinions extremely clear, to the extent anything he says is clear. He also had 4 years of a presidency with a pretty shitty record on just about everything except getting abortion banned, packing courts with religious ideologues, and tax cuts for rich people. This next election is just as much 'oh please anyone but fucking trump' as the last one, and Biden did have tons of people voting against Trump as much as voting for Biden. But sure, Americans love this stupid "Let's give the other party a chance" thing and have short memories and poor sources of information.

Should Biden be running only on "I'm not Trump"? No, of course not. It is still a factor though and he might actually have a harder time against a different opponent. I would love for someone younger and sharper like Gavin Newsom to step up, but both national parties are in shambles right now - the RNC with their near-total ownership by Trump, and the Democrats doing the same stupid shit they did when Bernie was running and not giving other candidates a fair chance.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The wall was a very unrealistic idea all along, so of course it wasn't built. Trump didn't care. It was a campaign device and a grift. The border is huge, and it would take a very long time to build a permanent wall, plus the funding - anyone with an IQ over room temp knew "Mexico will pay for it" was absurd.

But sure, I can't imagine Muslims wanting to vote for Biden either. But considering Trump is an out-and-out racist asshole, well, great. As for most of the rest of the country there are no good choices here.

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