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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

Nobody hates Palestinians more than other Arabs. This was never about them, it was always about hate for Israel.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

I dunno, maybe the people genociding them hate them more.

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] guacupado@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Usually, yeah.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Stop spreading misinformation.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Recall that it was the US who had to twist Egypt's arm into accepting refugees. Black September was a thing, and it resulted in several Arab countries refusing to take Palestinian refugees.

It's important that we discuss this. Hamas and other extremist groups take advantage of the kindness that is offered to Palestinians, and they cause civil wars and assassinations. If I remember right, they murdered the king of Jordan.

The Muslim extremists are a problem for everyone, and they make life much harder for Palestinians.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Does that mean they hate Palestinians, or just refugees in general?

It seems like the cultures of, checks notes, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are not built around helping those less-fortunate.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No idea about the other two but I'm pretty sure this doesn't apply to Egypt.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Charity is one of the main pillars of Islam. Saudi Arabia even has (had?) what was basically a Universal Basic Income for its citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen%27s_Account_Program_%28Saudi_Arabia%29

I'm not agreeing with any overarching point, I'm just not sure they're as bad as you think with regards to helping their own countrymen. Though maybe that generosity begins and ends with its citizens.

[-] s_s@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What percentage of people living in Saudi Arabia are allowed to be citizens?

~55% I think.

The rest might as well be dirt.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago
[-] s_s@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Mass slavery doesn't sound very charitable.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Do you not know what ok means?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

It’s important that we discuss this. Hamas and other extremist groups take advantage of the kindness that is offered to Palestinians, and they cause civil wars and assassinations. If I remember right, they murdered the king of Jordan.

Yeah I won't deny that these things are all pretty messed up, but the claim that Arabs hate Palestinians is just wrong, at least from what I've seen as an Egyptian. Also I don't see how Hamas, which was founded in the mid-80s in a completely different political climate, has anything to do with this. The PLO, which isn't even Islamist, is the one who did these things.

[-] Thirdborne@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Handy for Israel to get to exterminate them within their own borders and everyone else is to blame because they won't take them as refugees. Both those things are bad, but one is at least a bit worse.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Oh don't get me wrong, the blame is backwards. It lies primarily with Israel for killing them. It's fucked up, albeit less so, for these other countries to refuse to take in the refugees.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Handy for Israel to get to exterminate them within their own borders and everyone else is to blame because they won't take them as refugees.

I don't think they said or even implied that

[-] PanArab@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago
[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We see through your tribal bullshit. Y'all hate each other more than my aunts, but you hate Jews more. When people like you say Israelis need to leave the middle east, we know which Israelis you mean. Certainly not the Arabs living in Israel.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago
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