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[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 10 months ago (5 children)

How many more years of these news stories do I have to read before we actually do something about this?

I'm so fucking sick of this happening constantly.

[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sad thing is we’ll keep reading stories like this until we die. I can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel and I’m tired of being that guy talking about this issue.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 22 points 10 months ago

we die

Or they do. This level of wealth inequality is a new phenomenon, and it is already showing how great it goes, with fascism and other fringe ideologies on the rise.

The chance that Trump or a similar idiot being elected and turning dictator is a possibility in the US is a direct consequence of these fuckwits gutting society itself. It is very well possible that these guys will either become sock puppets of a Trump-like figure, and keep some of their wealth in exchange for losing all of their power, or commit grisly murder-suicides of their whole family in droves like in Russia.

They either don't see or don't care that they are cutting down the branch that they (and everyone else) are sitting on.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We have to stop voting for rich or wanna-be-rich business people. It's the only way. Combined votes for the best of the worst to eliminate the tyrants, then vote out the wealth focused. Can't believe that's the situation we are in.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

Voting alone will not get us out of this situation. Maybe implementing rank choice of voting might do it. I just don't see good solutions because the politicians were all about sold anyway it doesn't matter which one gets voted in, voters never get the final say.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's very little we can do. Even the 'eat the rich' idea isn't very viable since they can hide in their nuclear war protection bunkers surrounded by armed security.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool they can be buried in their tombs and we can just get back to ignoring their existence. Sounds like a win actually.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure, after their security people slaughter everyone who sends them in there. Are you willing to face down a bunch of machine guns fired by well-trained mercenaries in heavy armor? Do you think Zuckerberg has any less in his Hawaii survival bunker?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why do we need in their bunker? Seriously let's just scare them in there watch them seal the doors and then push a boulder onto their vents and doorways.

Boom modern pharaohs buried with all their wealth and followers and then we can just garden up here. Why do we need anything in their bunker unless they end their world with themselves in which case ok it's all over.

I see nothing wrong with the wealthy locking themselves in a box in the ground and leaving the whole world to the rest of us.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm just worried about who they'll kill on their way to the box.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

No need, we live in an era of drone warfare. Human soldiers aren't even in the top 50% of most effective combat units anymore. Armed security is all good and well but a machinegun emplacement isn't going to do a whole lot about 500 incoming quadcopters carrying thermite payloads. You don't even need to destroy the whole bunker, just the entrance, then roll up a couple of Caterpillars and put them under a 12 foot dirt hill. And if the drones don't cut it, say the compound has EM shielding of some sort that causes them to stop functioning (a feature that many modern actual militaries don't even have), a private plane shoveling a couple hundred pounds of explosives out of its cargo storage from cruising altitude would probably be a suitable replacement.

No compound of any sort is infinitely defensible from superior numbers. Zuck/Musk/Bezos/Etc may be rich but their reach is not limitless. Just like how civilians aren't going to want to rush down a mercenary emplacement, pretty soon all the available mercenary forces are going to be thinking twice about signing on to defend a compound where disposable drones like to drop random pipe bombs from the sky every other day.

In an end of the world scenario, where safety exists only inside the bunkers, the bunkers will fall, and swiftly. In a scenario where safety does exist outside the bunkers but everything generally sucks, and the Rich inside the bunkers are still able to be seen or have news posted about them, the bunkers will fall eventually. In a scenario where the Rich disappear into the bunkers and are never heard from again, fuck 'em, mission accomplished, we don't even need to raid the tombs.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Forever. If people haven't figured it out by now, they never will.